Thanks for that. Is there anyway/where I could learn about what affects what (e.g. how the hypo gene affects ghost, and what produces things like ultramel and lavender etc) so I dont have to ask all the time?

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3.3 various corns
2.2 cali kings
2.0 hybrid 3/4 pine 1/4 bull
0.1 bull
1.0 common boa
1.0 royals
1.0 yellow rat
1.1 albino black rat
0.1 jungle carpet
2.2 kenyan sand boas
1.1 red sided skinks
0.1 chile rose
OH NO! NO MORE SPARE VIVS!
WOULD LIKE-GTP,1.1 redail racers, 1.1 blue beautys, house snakes, 0.1 yellow rat, 1.1 radiated rats etc etc........

Well, to answer the three questions you've asked there:

1. You don't get a ghost WITHOUT hypo - Ghost is Hypo Anery.
2. You get Ultramel by breeding an animal carrying the Ultra gene (which, on its own, acts like a hypomelanistic-type gene) to an animal who carries or is Amelanistic. The offspring who get one copy of Ultra from one parent and one copy of amel from another parent will be Ultramel. You can't get "het" ultramel, either - the two genes exist on the same gene pair, so if they have both ingredients, they'll be visually ultramel. And if you breed an ultramel to a normal, the offspring will be het for EITHER ultra OR amel but not both
3. Lavender is a simple single recessive gene like Amel or Anery - you get them from breeding two animals who carry the Lavender gene (either het or homozygous).

And for more information I can strongly recommend Charles "Serpwidgets" Pritzel's book "The Corn Snake Morph Guide" - I think they're on the 2007 edition now

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Lizards: 2.1 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 3.5.12 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.1 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus, 1.0 P. m. melanoleucus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.5 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodger: 1.0 E. c. maurus

Thanks.

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3.3 various corns
2.2 cali kings
2.0 hybrid 3/4 pine 1/4 bull
0.1 bull
1.0 common boa
1.0 royals
1.0 yellow rat
1.1 albino black rat
0.1 jungle carpet
2.2 kenyan sand boas
1.1 red sided skinks
0.1 chile rose
OH NO! NO MORE SPARE VIVS!
WOULD LIKE-GTP,1.1 redail racers, 1.1 blue beautys, house snakes, 0.1 yellow rat, 1.1 radiated rats etc etc........

i just got my new corn, a lurrrvly little female gold dust from serpenco. just a hatchling at the mo but growing her up for breeding in the future, i've been breeding corns for years now, but have never tried producing specific morphs (mainly cos i'm a bit pants when it comes to genetics)
so my question is what should i breed her and her future babies to to stand a better chance of producing either gold dusts or something equally as pretty in the future?
at the moment i have...
male ghost
male amel
male snow
male ruby eye ghost
male carolina
female anery
female carolina
female creamsicle
female amel fantasy

i read somewhere that the gold dust is the amel version of an amber?? so would it be better to get an amber or even splash out on another gold dust? or can i hope to play about with what i've got?

I also have a hatchling 'chimera'... 2nd generation jungle corn crossed with a mega corn (thinking about crossing this with my fantasy to see what pops out... a fantasy mega jungle?) anyone tried this??
thanx in advance...sam

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To get golddusts out of your GD female, you ought to breed her to a butter male. You'll get half butters and half golddusts.

Amber X golddust will produce 100% caramel het hypo and het EITHER amel OR ultra but not both.

Jungle corn = Cal king X Corn.
"Mega" corn = Depending on who you talk to, this could be a:

• (Cal King X Corn) X Corn (i.e. a 75% corn Jungle)
• Corn X Emoryi (But this is USUALLY called a Rootbeer/Copper...)
• Corn X Bull snake

Fantasy corn = Grey Rat X Corn.

What you'll GET is a North American Rat Snake (plus some Lamprophis and maybe some Pituophis).

It'd be interesting to see what the "Chimaera" looks like, though...

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Lizards: 2.1 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 3.5.12 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.1 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus, 1.0 P. m. melanoleucus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.5 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodger: 1.0 E. c. maurus

thanks for that. so a butter it is then.
here's a thumbnail of the chimaera, (my made up name by the way) thought it best to just post a little pic so that nige doesn't shout at me for hijacking his thread and filling it full of pics .


i just chose her cos she's a heinz 57 varieties, she's just a baby at the moment so who knows how she'll look as an adult
ps ignore the remaining shed on her tail, she's just shed and i took it off after takin the photo's doh!!! (her daddy is a cali king x corn and mummy is a corn x emoryi)

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Ahhh. So she's a Rootbeer Jungle or Copper Jungle (depending on whether you use the original American name for a non-amel emoryi/corn cross or the UK name). Interesting combination. Keep in mind you'll want to make sure anyone buying her babies knows that there's Cal King in the mix - and that Cal Kings in the wild are snake eaters. Not for to be co-housed without supervision!

You can see a little of the Cali King influence in her head - but I'd guess she's actually more like 12.5% Cal King, 25% Emoryi and 62.5% Corn (if Mum was a 50/50 cross of Emoryi and Corn - she could be more corn than that)

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Lizards: 2.1 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 3.5.12 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.1 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus, 1.0 P. m. melanoleucus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.5 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodger: 1.0 E. c. maurus

[quote=Ssthisto;741740]Ahhh. So she's a Rootbeer Jungle or Copper Jungle (depending on whether you use the original American name for a non-amel emoryi/corn cross or the UK name). Interesting combination. Keep in mind you'll want to make sure anyone buying her babies knows that there's Cal King in the mix - and that Cal Kings in the wild are snake eaters. Not for to be co-housed without supervision!

right, so now i have a propper common name for her, thanks. rest assured i always properly mark up my hatchlings when they go for sale, so any potential buyers will be fully aware of the mix thats in there

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what the heck would you sell those as eh? lol

Frosty Rootbeer Jungles?

Since the US name for a "fantasy" corn (grey rat X corn) is "Frosted"

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Lizards: 2.1 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 3.5.12 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.1 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus, 1.0 P. m. melanoleucus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.5 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodger: 1.0 E. c. maurus