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Old 18-01-2008, 05:53 PM
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I was thinking of pairing a granite with an opal motley, resulting in normals, het for anery, blood red, amel, lavender, and motley.

If I held back all of that clutch, and bred them together, I believe I'd have a chance at Plasma, plasma motley, granite motley, avalanche.. avalanche motley? some very very low 0.1 - 0.8% chances of quadruple or even possible to get a 5 gene homozygous animal... 0.1% of a snow plasma motley, I suppose.. if that's even a thing?

What I want to create is just one batch of snakes that I can hold back a clutch for and grow on, and call my "suprise corns", because whatever comes out of the eggs - could be a lot of things, and I'm sure I will certainly be suprised..

So does anyone think it's worth doing or am I just wasting a perfectly good opal motley for whom I have an opal motley male and could just get a clutch of 100% opal motley instead of messing around trying to add blood red and anery to the mix.
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Sounds like a project that would be a lot of fun.
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personally i would, it means a nice selection of hatchlings, but it means playing the waiting game. im going to have a few projects starting next year, a similar thing, having to wait two generations and seew what the f2 chucks out
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Old 18-01-2008, 06:26 PM
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I would too!!! Yeah, you could get a load of opal motleys but think of the suspense and surprise in 6 years time...and then if you play and beat the odds...how great would some of those combo's be. DO IT!!!
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I would do it personally... Motley Glacier-Blood would be a pretty nifty beastie.

That said, you might not be able to tell which F2 animals are homozygous for Motley AND Bloodred
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It's somthing to really look forward to. You wouldn't know the outcome and it would result in some good morph eventually
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I would do it........its a lot of waiting but I think it would be worth it......
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My OH has pointed out the 1 in 1000 chance of getting a 5 gene homo animal, but people have won against much worse odds than that - and the fact that it's "possible" would be the exciting bit. I think he thinks that I should just go for a sure thing on the opal motleys whilst they're still quite decent value, but I've got a 1.2 trio of visuals and a 0.1 opal het motley breeding this year, so I really could spare the extra visual female... There's a little voice whispering just do something different for a change!
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My OH has pointed out the 1 in 1000 chance of getting a 5 gene homo animal, but people have won against much worse odds than that - and the fact that it's "possible" would be the exciting bit. I think he thinks that I should just go for a sure thing on the opal motleys whilst they're still quite decent value, but I've got a 1.2 trio of visuals and a 0.1 opal het motley breeding this year, so I really could spare the extra visual female... There's a little voice whispering just do something different for a change!
true, the odds of getting a 5 homo animal are low, but a 4 homos still worth doing, so's the threes and two's especially with the bloodred in there
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only thing I'd point out is ...how can you tell the difference?

Can you tell by looking the difference between even opal and snopal? people always seem to sell em as 'opal poss snopal' cause they can't even tell the difference by looking. Hell some have problems telling between blizzard and avalanche, avalanche and whiteout?...
Dunno, to me it's all just white snakes. True you would have the chance for plasma motleys, which I think will look nicer'n 'possible quint-homo whitesnake'.

We need someone to map the corn snake genome so we can just send off for a sure test :P
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