Heres a spanner in the works I think.Can onyone help.In 2007 I paired an amel stripe male to an anery stripe female corn snake.There first time breeding.There was no other male with the female.The anery female I bred myself.She was 1 of 3 anery stripes in the clutch.The rest of the clutch where normal corns and a few snows.The parents of the anery stripe where a normal female to a snow male.The amel stripe I paired up with the anery stripe I bought him as a hatchling.So here it is.The amel stripe and anery stripe female produced 12 hatchlings in 2007.1 hatchling was a normal stripe.I got 4 amels and the rest of the hatchlings where normal looking corns.Im not great on the genetics,but I was told this could not happen.Heres pics of mother,father and the only stripe they produced in the clutch.
This is the amel male
this is the female the anery stripe.

this is there 2007 hatchling.The only stripe produced out of a clutch of 12.

In my opinion, your female anery "stripe" is actually an anery motley (striped form) and not a true stripe. She`s obviously het for stripe hence producing the striped baby with the striped male.

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There's something about the Anery's "stripe" pattern that makes me think she's actually NOT a genetic stripe at all. If that's the case, it explains why you only got one striped hatchling - she's het for stripe, but not homozygous.

She looks more like a very unusual "Aztec" (especially near the tail) - though the pattern is also a bit like striped/dot-dash California kingsnake. You said the parents of the Anery were a snow and a normal - were they related, and is there ANY chance there might be "jungle" corn in that mix?

Obviously, because you've gotten a genuine visual stripe hatchling, the female must be HET for stripe... but I'm betting she's not homozygous cornsnake stripe.

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Lizards: 2.1 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 3.5.12 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.1 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus, 1.0 P. m. melanoleucus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.5 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodger: 1.0 E. c. maurus

Anery Motley would have produced 100% motley babies when put to a Stripe, though....

Were the "normal" not-striped babies clear-bellied?

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Lizards: 2.1 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 3.5.12 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.1 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus, 1.0 P. m. melanoleucus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.5 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodger: 1.0 E. c. maurus

thats the question needed, cause you'd expect some motleys there somewhere in a certain number

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MY SNAKES AND INVERTSLAVENDER 1.1BUTTER 1.0ABBOTTS OKEETEE 2.1BLOODRED 1.1STRAWBERRY SNOW 0.1ULTRAMEL HET CARAMEL 0.1STRIPED HOUSE SNAKE 0.1CAPE HOUSE SNAKE 0.1.1AMEL CAPE HOUSE SNAKE 1.1ROYAL PYTHON 0.1MEXICAN RED KNEE 0.0.3BRAZILLIAN WHITE KNEE 0.0.2GIANT SPINEY STICK INSECTS 2.3

Maybe one of the snakes was a hybrid then??

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0.1 Carolina Corn
1.0 Amel Motley Corn

0.1 Guinea Pig

Ohh right, so if a motley was put to a stripe, the babies would be motley? Even if the stripe wasn`t het? Interesting I knew the 2 patterns were from the same gene (or something like that) just didn`t realise they were that closely connected

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Motley is dominant to stripe on the same gene pair.

A Motley het Stripe will look like a visual motley (which may display banded, hurricane/circleback, q-tipped or even ribbon/zipper patterning) - there's no guarantee a motley het stripe will show the 'striped motley' pattern. Here, though, if it IS a motley het stripe (and I have my doubts - it looks like a reverse image, patternwise, of my striped Cali King) ... it's an amazingly ribbony one!

And it's not possible to get a true four-lined stripe animal who is het motley.

If you cross a homozygous motley (which this isn't) to a homozygous stripe, you will get 100% Motley het Stripe offspring. Which, as I said, can look like ANY of the motley patterns, not just Ribbon/Zipper.

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Lizards: 2.1 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 3.5.12 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.1 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus, 1.0 P. m. melanoleucus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.5 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodger: 1.0 E. c. maurus

Thanks for the replies and info.Some is very deep for me.Its like talking a different language.I wouldnt be that advanced when it comes to genetics.I have the mother of the anery female,I dont know what to call her now.The mother is a normal.The father is a snow and he was a cracker.I sold him on about 2 months now.I done a little out crossing last year and I got loads of snows without a snow to snow breeding.I dont have a pic of the snow but he looked like a usual snow.I have a pic of the anery stripe female.She is the biggest normal corn in the pic.

I was holding a normal brother to the stripe 2007 hatchling.He just looks like a regular normal corn snake with checkered patterns on his belly.I held back a sister to the 2007 stripe hatchling.She is an amel,she is shedding so when she is finnished I will be able to see her belly patterns better.

I was going through some old photos on the pc.I found some of the snow corn that was bred to the normal female to get the anery stripe female.
I have to up load them to photobucket.I will have them in a few mins.