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16-10-2007, 01:03 PM
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can corn snakes and rabbits share.....
............the same substrate type?
I've just been cleaning out the rabbits and putting in their new bedding, woodshavings from Pets at Home, and couldn't help but notice that there was a lot less dust (hardly any) in the air compared to when I clean the snakes and give them a new bedding of Aspen. Does anybody use the woodshavings designated for rabbits, hamsters, gerbils, mice and rats for their snakes? Does anybody strongly recommend NOT using it? It says it is made from selected softwood timbers from sustainable forests! Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
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16-10-2007, 01:16 PM
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The use of pine shavings for any small animal is a subject area which is hotly debated. Personally, I won't allow them anywhere near my animals as I feel the evidence of the phenols causing liver damage in small animals is quite compelling.
Some details (mainly referring to small animals and humans): Respiratory Toxicity of Cedar and Pine Wood Some information from a more reptile point of view: More On the Use of Pine in Captive Environments I use a bedding called Aubiose for my snakes - it's made from hemp, and does not contain the same phenols as softwood shavings do. This is quite widely available, cheap, and suitable for your rabbits too 
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16-10-2007, 07:06 PM
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none of mine get woodshavings - since a couple of sick rats years ago got me & my vet researching - but the snakes and bunnies do share the aspen!
i agree on the dust though, and tend to 'violence' it outside for a while before it goes into anybody's house used to use aubiose too, before i moved house... haven't found a supplier round here yet.
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16-10-2007, 07:08 PM
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Megazorb is also a good one for the snakes and furries to share - look at horse feed merchants...
Looks like this (scuse the snake!) 
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16-10-2007, 07:34 PM
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16-10-2007, 09:34 PM
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Does anybody know where I can buy Aubiose or Megazorb within a 5 mile radius of Eltham?
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22-10-2007, 01:16 PM
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Just to let you know that I found a supplier of Aubiose and Megazorb, only a 5 minute drive from mine, at stables I never knew existed. I decided on the Aubiose and all of my adult corns and the rabbits (Fudge and Smudge) were given a fresh bedding of this over the weekend. They are all now part of a woodshave free zone". Thank-you for pointing me in the right direction.
Ally/Amanda - How are the babies doing? Cheers, Patrick.
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22-10-2007, 03:59 PM
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ye my corn has sawdust woodshavings loves digging in it!
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22-10-2007, 04:29 PM
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yeah i suppose though as long as it doesnt contain ceadar as its poisonous to all reptiles. when i read the headder, i though it was going to say can they share the same tank.
best regards,dan
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23-10-2007, 10:55 AM
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