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Old 25-04-2008, 12:52 AM
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Default Spanish say 'no way hose' to Exotic Animal Keeping

I know topics covering the keeping of large reptiles in Spain was discussed late last year/early this.

But it is interesting to see that now for some, exotic keeping is to be prohibited .........

Yes this article is two months old, but it is only because a colleague of mine has been asked to assist in the rehoming of a Racoon, that l thought it was perhaps interesting to show now.

How long one must ask before we see this happening elsewhere?

New restrictions on the ownership of exotic pets and dangerous dogs in Andalucía


The Doberman is being added to the list of dangerous breeds in the region
The residents of Andalucía have six months to hand over or get rid of their strange pets. New legislation in the region is set to prohibit crocodiles or large reptiles, monkeys, spiders or poisonous insects, and lions being kept as personal pets. The new rules say such animals can no longer be kept at home.

And new restrictions on the ownership of dogs considered to be of a dangerous breed are also on the way. The Doberman is being added to the list of dangerous dogs and that means that a muzzle will always have to be placed on the dog when in the street, which will also have to be kept on a lead of less than 1 metre in length. Owners will have to keep the dog’s documentation on them in public, and they will not be allowed entry to places where there are children.

Owners have until October to adapt to the new legislation.

New restrictions on the ownership of exotic pets and dangerous dogs in AndalucÃ*a

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SPAIN: Tough new law, restrictions for pit bulls & other “dangerous dogs” - Gary Bogue - Pets and wildlife

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I did a little checking on the Internet and discovered that the dangerous dog regulations in the story above also contain some interesting laws for other types of “dangerous pets” in Southern Spain.

For example:

“Under the new system, large reptiles, poisonous insects and large primates will not be allowed in Andalucian households and people who flout the law could be hit with a fine of 115,000 euros ($174,811 U.S. dollars). People living in the region who already own such pets will be given a six-month period to take the forbidden animal to their local city hall and hand it over … “

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Old 25-04-2008, 07:39 AM
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Ominous - what provoked this change in the law?
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isn't this like the dwa that we have over here.
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isn't this like the dwa that we have over here.

key word "forbidden" so not like DWA
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This might make people realise it is not going to go away.

Getting abit close to home now isn't it?
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well having looked at the thread in "snakes" i can only conclude that the threat is being approached in the usual way
1:ignore it
2:deny it
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I find it a terrifying piece of 'legislation'. I headed over to the Pro Keepers Lobby this am for some reading up as I had seen it in a couple of sig's on here.

Going back over there to read up some more, I am a new owner of a Royal Snake and much to my shame didn't realise there was a treat to all keepers of anything considered exotic.

Please excuse my ignorance, I am learning so much on here though.

Thank for the post and the nudge I needed to keep me informed!

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Old 25-04-2008, 07:45 PM
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I find it a terrifying piece of 'legislation'. I headed over to the Pro Keepers Lobby this am for some reading up as I had seen it in a couple of sig's on here.

Going back over there to read up some more, I am a new owner of a Royal Snake and much to my shame didn't realise there was a threat to all keepers of anything considered exotic.

Please excuse my ignorance, I am learning so much on here though.

thanks for the post and the nudge I needed to become more imformed.

Claire

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I cant really see any link between the laws of a Spanish region to our own to be fair. I dont think it has any bearing on our laws what they are doing there.
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I cant really see any link between the laws of a Spanish region to our own to be fair. I dont think it has any bearing on our laws what they are doing there.
I tend to agree with you, it's only a region within Spain? Not all of Spain?
Correct me if I'm wrong.....

I would possibly be a bit more worried if it was a blanket law for the whole country.
Also, I reckon the people who have introduced this law realise that it will be near impossible to police so have slapped a ridiculously large fine onto the legislation to scare people into just giving them up instead of the people in charge actively searching for them.
For this reason I think we will be safe for the forseeable future, our government and police are forever complaining about either lack of funds or lack of man power so the logistics of doing something like this and the costs behind it would render it a no go.


Edit.......... Also, where would they house all these confiscated exotics?? There are far too many for all the zoo's and safari parks therefore the only option would be to cull them, sort of defeats the object doesn't it because one of their main reasons would be the usual arguement that they shouldn't be kept as pets, it's cruel etc... and culling them isn't!!???
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