Personally i think the "heads" of all these groups that are all for us fighting for our rights need their heads banging together.
They are acting like children refusing to join forces with other societys in the reptile comunity and its plain dumb!
If we stood together on things like this we would have more weigh with regard to having the cops done to actually reflect the reptile specifically writen by people that know love breath eat and work in the reptile industry.

I have a lot of views on what could be done what should be done etc but its never going to happen. Not because of people not listening on the ground its because of the ammount of shouting that needs to be done to be heard at the top.

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Hi all, Faith,

You have hit the nail on the head with your post, that is this country all over and related to many hobbies they will not work together for the good of the hobbies.

There is to much bickering and backstabbing in the rep world and no action and this puts people off, thats why they go off and look after their animals and don't get involved.

I am afraid I am the latter, I just look after my snakes the best I can clean vivs good food and a proper rep vet if needed.

slither61

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We kind of do the same because at the end of the day if the people that actually know what they are doing and make a job out of doing it cant be bothered to actually come to us and say "Look get of your backsides and rally with us, because if you dont then this is whats going to happen" its not going to happen because it will only be the reptile keepers standing up for our rights not the people who are actually employed by these societies, oh no they wont stand up and be counted or seen to make the first move at all.
I agree its OUR hobby but with out correct leadership from ONE society as a whole then we will always pull in different directions.
Now if they showed some back bone and stood up and said "ok this is what the reptile keepers need, we will stand together as one" we may then actually sit up and take notice of what they say.
We never see these people actully doing anything for the hobby at all its all done behind closed doors.
As for the societies if they cant follow their own rules how on earth do they expect other people to do it.
Its beyond a joke..........
The british had a motto when we were fighting WW2 " United we stand, divided we fall"
Its a shame its the other way round now " Divided we stand, united we fall" not just with things like this either
The uk need a cattle prod up their backside and i say we start with the govenment!

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"many more truly believe that the learning curve is as disposable as some of the species others keep."

theres many out there who would'nt know a learning curve if they were pushed off the top of it
regards gaz

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Very True Gaz! Very true.

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I think that all the codes that are to be written, should be written with input from keepers thinking objectively.

That each code should have balls, teeth and above all a legal standing, otherwise they will become mini handbooks for inexperienced and flippant exotics keepers.

The codes should reflect responsibility to the species being maintained and should take all avenues very seriously into consideration.

That if species have the rights to a standard way of living condition within zoo parks and institutions, then they should have the same living conditions applied to them in someones home.

To cease the constant attacks against the exotics community, we must make the stand talked of here in this thread and demand that the codes of practice are not just addressed but addressed properly and responsibly.

That if bad practices are present in the retail trade then these must be adhered to.

The codes l have seen have not particularily paid a great deal of attention to 'shops' selling exotics, especially on the primate front, and that if using primates as the example we wish to see a full stop to the pet monkey trade, then shops selling primates must either be stopped, or seriously regulated and if needs be enforced upon.

I hope that as some have written here about their concerns to the industry, that more keepers will learn to understand and respond to the calls for codes of practice when the time arrives.

R

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