just a note hope u dont mind... as its not strictly to do with legislation...


your sig is very striking but a misleading when you work out what it is referring to.... yes its dramatic but i really thinks it could be potentially very offputting and blurs the message you are trying to convey ... its very religious which im sure your campaign is not..

just a thought hope you dont mind me pointing that out...

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They tried this before though Rory at the beginning of 2007 and it was refused. Were they just handing us a rope to hang ourselves with or something?

Bear in mind people - IF primate keeping is banned, the animals will be taken from their home causing stress (a bit like MW did to ... ooops!!), they will be placed in zoos, but what happens if and when they're full and they cannot house anymore? The animals will be DESTROYED!!! What a f****ng load of w******s!!! And they're supposed to care, stupid b*****d morons!!!! Yes - it winds me up terribly!!! Those animals that were kept happily in a suitable environment will be ripped out of that leaving them scared and confused and they will then be MURDERED!!!! Now THAT'S cruelty!!!!

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Hi GG, hope you and R are well,

The problem we have and this is where its all coming from,

A new policy on article ten [can still be overturned] but a policy all the same is saying that Lemurs are not allowed to be sold by private keeper to private keepers, nor are any article ten covered animals, they can only be donated or gifted to scientific or educational premises.

Now you know as l do that art ten covered primates also includes, Lemurs, Cotton Tops and Goeldis and some.

If the private keeper is not allowed to sell them, and we also know that the zoos will not want them, as they just simply can not budget for them properly, they will have to die out.

What is more concerning is the new cites legislation, where all primates species sit on appendix one and in the UK they all now sit on annex 1.

If Europe want to bring us in line, and all primates are covered by a1 legislation, then the implementaion of cites into UK would mean that all primates must be annex 1 for UK, if this is the case and there is no private sales to be had, what then?

It will mean placing animals onto the pill?

With dwa removals recently and no sales, expansion of enclosures will be a necessity.

No Sales, zoos and the likes not spending the money private keepers sell at, private keepers not wanting to donate then what?

You can see the line of thought yes?

Monkey world and rspca went behind the working groups back and got this policy signed off - pro keeping knew NOTHING about it till three days ago.

What does that suggest to you?

R

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Religion - odd subject.

But people believe.

Campaigning - odder subject.

But people believe.

What is the tie in for my banners, are they deliberate?

Yes they are.

If people can believe in a God or deity and require no hard evidential proof and don't request it, then how can people not believe in a threat as is the one we face daily with the Opposition, and to continually request evidential verification on this threat when the threat is irrefutable?

The new campaign on Apathy and Ignorance is here.

Thanks for noticing and if you are a devout believer then no offence is meant towards you.

R
PKL

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It suggests to me that MW actually don't care about the welfare of animals currently in captivity. It suggests to me that they're r soles!!!! Why is it the people that DO care are the ones that are persecuted!!

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