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If the RSPCA were in total control of animal welfare how would we fare?

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Old 13-12-2007, 09:39 AM
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I would say the cases of animal cruelty would rise dramatically within a couple of years then slowly thin out. And it would be harder for people to buy and keep exotic animals.
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Old 13-12-2007, 03:09 PM
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I personally think that if the RSPCA had 100% control over the way we kept our pets exotic or not we would end up having our exotics taken away and slowly there would be no more reptiles kept in homes as pets .
Not only that there would be so many different bits of paper telling us for example that a 6ft viv is a must for a royal and if we didnt conform then the royal is being treated unfairly under the AWA they would then confinscate the said animal
No more tubs no more RUBs no more exotic pet shops no more breeding in our own homes they would want to licence everything no more shows no more exotic vets no more exotic shops the list is like a domino effect
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I also beleive, like Faith, that we owuld see a domino effect int he way animals were kept within the captive "industry" (for want of a better word)

I thikn htye would first clamp down on legislational issues and push forward tighter legis. than that which we already face.

They would then slowly begin to pick apart animal keeping more than likely starting with exotics.

God help us if that ever happens
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I personally think that if the RSPCA had 100% control over the way we kept our pets exotic or not we would end up having our exotics taken away and slowly there would be no more reptiles kept in homes as pets .
Not only that there would be so many different bits of paper telling us for example that a 6ft viv is a must for a royal and if we didnt conform then the royal is being treated unfairly under the AWA they would then confinscate the said animal
No more tubs no more RUBs no more exotic pet shops no more breeding in our own homes they would want to licence everything no more shows no more exotic vets no more exotic shops the list is like a domino effect
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Old 13-12-2007, 03:44 PM
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wow thats a first for me lol
i hope for the love of the exotics im wrong but if the rspca pull the noose any tighter then thats it the reptile keepers are going to have to choose to either lay down and let the rspca walk all over us or stand and fight not just for the rights of us as humans but for the right for the more "endangered" species kept in captivity.
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I personally think that if the RSPCA had 100% control over the way we kept our pets exotic or not we would end up having our exotics taken away and slowly there would be no more reptiles kept in homes as pets .
Not only that there would be so many different bits of paper telling us for example that a 6ft viv is a must for a royal and if we didnt conform then the royal is being treated unfairly under the AWA they would then confinscate the said animal
No more tubs no more RUBs no more exotic pet shops no more breeding in our own homes they would want to licence everything no more shows no more exotic vets no more exotic shops the list is like a domino effect
So I would have to get a 6ft viv for my Royal and bin my RUBs. Anything else??

How bad is that??
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Old 13-12-2007, 07:28 PM
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So I would have to get a 6ft viv for my Royal and bin my RUBs. Anything else??

How bad is that??
Its not just that sy not at all think of it this way
No more exotic pet shops
Licensing for ALL pet breeders including reptiles mamals inverts blah blah every animal kept in the uk that is classed by the rspca as a companion animal
then considring the RSPCA have admitted (basically) about knowing naff all on the subject of exotics the care sheets would be incorrect! which if the rspca had its way the care sheets from them would become law! dont abide by the care sheet you break the law break the animal welfare law you get your pets taken away
not only you but hundereds of other keepers that know if they abide by the rspca's way of caring for reps it will be the incorrect way
Anyway after getting your reps taken away its a bann from keeping pets for 5 yrs and a fine as well as a possibal prision sentance!
obv only ifs and buts but you come across as an inteligent person sy im sure you can read betewne the lines and work it out!

im sure there are lots of people out there that have thought at one stage oh it wont happen to me blah blah
but how many people have said that and then its happened ?
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Its not just that sy not at all think of it this way
No more exotic pet shops
Licensing for ALL pet breeders including reptiles mamals inverts blah blah every animal kept in the uk that is classed by the rspca as a companion animal
then considring the RSPCA have admitted (basically) about knowing naff all on the subject of exotics the care sheets would be incorrect! which if the rspca had its way the care sheets from them would become law! dont abide by the care sheet you break the law break the animal welfare law you get your pets taken away
not only you but hundereds of other keepers that know if they abide by the rspca's way of caring for reps it will be the incorrect way
Anyway after getting your reps taken away its a bann from keeping pets for 5 yrs and a fine as well as a possibal prision sentance!
obv only ifs and buts but you come across as an inteligent person sy im sure you can read betewne the lines and work it out!
I do read and not every member of the RSPCA knows nothing about reps. I have met quite a few that know more than some on here and actually keep reptiles as pets.

Imagine that an RSPCA inspector having a snake, surely that cannot be true. Now you seem an intelligent woman so surely you would know that not all are the same.

If however the RSPCA (bless them) did take over the world as it seems to hear some talk. I am sure I will adapt to there ways as I do with any changes. Petrol goes up I still buy it, if I have to get rid of my RUBs then so be it. As for Licenses I would gladly welcome being licensed.

I live in a world where changes are made and I adapt to those changes.
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Old 13-12-2007, 07:41 PM
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ok i understand your taking a different view as if im talking about the Groud workers of the rspca im not
ive met a fair few rspca workers and a few animal welfare wardens (as they are now called)
And yup most of them are pretty clued up
but those arnt the people that come up with the stupid rules about keeping reptiles
we have 4 royals and i can assure you that not one of them would feel "safe" in a 6ft viv not only that they wouldnt feed etc
id welcome being licensed but not by the likes of the rspca
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