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Not to point out the obvious here but i did say any muppet could say it would be expensive.
I was just looking for some kind of realistic breakdown of what kind of team would be needed and what sort of money they'd be looking at for each team member. For as long as i can remember the "dream" has always been to take the RSPCA to court and show them for what they are. But here we are a decade later and still no closer to that. Meanwhile, the RSPCA have proceeded to get themselves comfy in just about every place they want to be. Let's be serious here, does anyone REALLY think that a multi-million pound operation gives a flying f**k about losing one court case that isn't going to be advertised in a manner that will stop anyone donating to them? This really isn't a rant about us not doing anything, just an observation.
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02-01-2008, 02:42 AM
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You raise a valid question Dan.
And both you and l know that the figure brought up to take the RSPCA down was in the million. We just do not have that money. But more importantly, it is not so much l feel about bringng down the RSPCA local centres, but bringing down the leading banner. But worse than that, who do we put into their place? It is not an easy question to answer l am afraid. I had/have an issue l am dealing with now, and there is no one to call in but the RSPCA and to do that would place another nail in the industrys coffin - yet who do we have?? NO One! So we bring them down, then what?? R
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02-01-2008, 04:06 AM
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Surely it doesn't take more than 10 years for a group of people covering so many aspects of working life to come up with an answer?
No matter how you look at it you have 2 options: You can moan and whinge about apathy and being penniless OR You can do anything and everything in your power to change what ever you can. The above doesn't just apply to Rory but to everyone reading.
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02-01-2008, 12:19 PM
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I agree Dan but you must remember that most of us can only do what is within our own power to help.
The kind of cash it would take to launch a campaign against the RSPCA on the level realistically needed is way beyond what anyone here, I imagine, could manage. I would give my left arm to do more, and I say that from the heart as animals are a very large part of both mine and my children's lives. What more can I do? I am a stay at home mum with 2 young kids, a reasonable income yes but have the same bills anyone else does and the expenses of running a business also. Other than campaigning and offering support tot he bodies who are working hard, what else can I do as an individual? I don't ask in a theoretical manner but pose a genuine question as I would do more if I could. This is not forgetting of course that I already work research and other aspects that nI can be of use on for PKL and offer my help in any angle I feel I can have a valuable input into.
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02-01-2008, 12:38 PM
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I'm not here to argue anything so bare with me.
If you take ANY of the popular forums over the last couple of years and add them all together, taking £1 per month for 10 years would give you £300,000 without interest. That's a very rough figure but you get the idea of the funds available if someone capable could tap into it. Why are you not looking at where the funds currently donated by the trade goes? The hobby IS small in the real world but it is also pretty well off. I've been asked "so what do we do" hundreds of times all over the place and i don't think i often ignore the question. My thoughts on what should be done are available just about most places. At the end of the day though it is always put down to other people to solve the questions. When you (as a hobby) are able to ask yourselves instead of those around you then you'll be a force to be reckoned with.
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07-01-2008, 11:52 AM
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Unfortunately, this is all theoretical. The RSPCA has its own political department which spends its time ‘entertaining’ MPs, the RSPCA regularly throw lavish receptions for them at parliament, this means that the RSPCA have unparalleled contact with MPs and whisper in there ears how wonderful they are and how its only the animal abusers that are complaining. For the passed ten years I have been calling for a Public Inquiry into the RSPCA and how its operates, slowly, very slowly the ‘vale of respectability’ held by the RSPCA is slipping, more and more people, including some MPs are beginning to ask questions. All we can do is keep the pressure up, keep chipping away and hopefully the wall will crumble, but it will fall.
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This case is mentioned in the latest issue of Private Eye. Not for the first time the RSPCA get a bit of a kicking from them. PE is a very influential and widely read magazine counting some very well placed people amongst it's readership, let's hope they'll take note.
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10-01-2008, 10:01 PM
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The USPCA (the Northern Ireland equivilent) has no where near the same power the RSPCA seems to have.. I wonder if the Jocks equivilent is as powerful in their Executive?
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