Jack,

You have not missed anything, at this present time, no one knows when the cop's are likely to be presented properly towards the general public domain and more to the point if at all!!!

Yes, l do emphasize the last part of the sentence, there is talk that the only cop's likely to be made available are those from the RSPCA, and at present our ' passionate and caring political side' do not still seem to have their fingers out of the clouds above.

Issa,

As said, l agree there should be certain distinctions between the reptile cop's, l can not make those distinctions clearly for what l know about reptiles you can place on the back of a postage stamp, but to display what l mean:

Yes: a skunk and a rat would have two seperate cop's for them, for each species is different, however:

A cop for rodentia - rats - would also be ideal for other rodents of that family line, but not the same as for Jerboas, again another rodent.

And a cop for mephitidae - skunk - would be or should be in its own distinct class. Although some say that the Ferret cop should be the same.

I hope this makes sense Issa, as said, l can not make the distinctions between the reptile families suitably enough, but to say that the cop for a Leopard Gecko would be the same as for a Royal Python, would in my eyes be wrong.

R

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By the sounds of it we are in perfect agreement on this.

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My Scaley Little Clan2.3.0 Royal Pythons1.0.0 Bearded Dragon1.2.0 BCI0.1.0 BCC x BCI0.0.1 Ackie1.0.0 Hoggie

Hi Issa,

Having done some initial digging on this subject.

Yes it is quite plausable that something akin to your question about our American colleagues and their transportation problem, could occur here.

The mere fact that a few of the 'power' players in the political world whom are savvy to direct intel on this subject are concerned, could easily indicate that such a movement could go through.

Should this actually occur, then as said, it is quite likely that opposition here in UK could see this as a ripe opportunity to see if they too could dredge up support to seeing that very same movement actioned here.

Hope that helps [or not]

R

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hmmmm that does little to put my mind at rest. As I've said before (probably on a thread similiar to this one actually) I honestly believe that the Antis are taking a longer view on this campaign than the short term effects. Even some of the new COP (which I actually wholeheartedly agree with in theory) could potentially be used to severly limit the reptile community as a whole, eg what would a impossibly tight rodent COP do to the feeder industry that provides us with snake food? How many people would potentially pay petshop live prices for feeders if the large feeder breeders were forced to close?

Even better, if you want to start getting into "what-ifs" , An accident involving injury or fatality could, with the right media spin (bless the page 3 tabloids) do probably the same to the Herping Hobby as the dunblane massacre did to the sport of pistol target shooting. Given the amount of reptiles currently within the UK, I see the last point as more of a when not an if unfortunately.

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My Scaley Little Clan2.3.0 Royal Pythons1.0.0 Bearded Dragon1.2.0 BCI0.1.0 BCC x BCI0.0.1 Ackie1.0.0 Hoggie

Hi Issa,

Lot of questions.

Could some of the future cop's pose a severe restriction to the future of reptile keeping?

Of course they could, hence why the need to ensure that we have pro keeping written cops in action rather than be totally reliant upon those written by the opposition.

If more keepers were to take on board the action of future forecasting and take a look out of the box, then more would see the potential dangers of the badly written cop.

A tight rodent cop, could very well very seriously damage the future of reptile keeping. There was and is still discussions being held about plans for the listing of certain culture foods as 'pets'. There has always been talks about the use of mouse and rat pinkies with the reptile market.

How many people/keepers would pay pet shop prices on deadstock?

Well if you have no choice available, then quite a few to begin with .......... but only as a starting point. Pet shop prices at times are staggering, l have seen the recent prices of gerbils alone, and it makes my heart stop! People would either start to harvest their own, or they would begin to reduce their collection. New legislations and cop's will make it harder to comply with breeding their own supply so then we would start to see the reductions of collections.

Media hype out to get you!?

Come on, from your writing style alone, one can see that you know the media hype will jump on board any story that will sell the rag in the first place .... will not be long, before we start to see more media hype do their damage - hell there are enough 'incidences' in the industry any way to start the ball rolling.

R

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