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Old 04-02-2008, 02:34 PM
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Its been very quiet for the last few weeks, but a lot has been happening behind the scenes.

COP's in various drafts are set to be presented to various consultation groups.

As to a pre-set timetable of events, well we have not seen one to date.

There is always the usual run of the mill rumours and speculations travelling around, and that is no different here in early February.

What l have found out to be annoying, frustrating and down right ridiculous of late, is the sheer volume of problems that could downfall this industry as a whole, bot from the outsider opposition as we would all like to see, but more problems from within our own house.

It would be nice to feel that keepers from all sectors could be seen to start asking questions along the lines of 'where are the COP's?'

Pro Keepers Lobby - IS not as many people seemingly think disappearing.

What is happening however, is that we are in the process of creating a totally new website, which will incorporate three main websites into one.

TSKA-Rainbow Market Management [Predominately Sales], TSKA Care Guides [Reference], Pro Keepers Lobby [Political Legislation]. As said all three will be rolled into one website to allow all keepers a much easier navigation experience.

Also, whilst it is still known as PKL - we will in fact be highlighting Pro Keepers' Alliance running under the PKL banner.

Presently l am sifting through various COP's, and l genuinely pray that they do come to fruition - especially the Primate Codes, for l do feel these are very much needed in the United Kingdom.

Will keep you updated.

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Old 04-02-2008, 08:43 PM
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So you are merging the PKL or PKA with your business website? So everyone who wants to join the PKL will have to go via your business website? Very shrewd!
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Yes, l am, but also for good reason.

I decided some time ago to not make a charge to the individual keeper for a PKA membership.

In light of all that has passed l find myself unable to.

PKA will be concentrating on all that affects the individual keeper: animals rights, keepers rights, responsibity of keeping and husbandry, legislation.

The only way to achieve that is driving that traffic through the website that keepers actually visit for one reason or another. This way we can keep keepers informed of all that is afoot.

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Hi Rory, couple of questions. When are these COP likely to be put into place, are they going to be species specific in the case of reptiles (if so where do I find an outline of the Boid, Leo and Dragon COP.) Also totally off topic but what do you think about the American proposel to ban transportation of Herps. I'm personally torn between thinking its a PR stunt for an election year that won't get passed the public consultation stage and and unease on how easily this could potentially be bullied through with the right media attention.
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Hi Rory, couple of questions. When are these COP likely to be put into place, are they going to be species specific in the case of reptiles (if so where do I find an outline of the Boid, Leo and Dragon COP.) Also totally off topic but what do you think about the American proposel to ban transportation of Herps. I'm personally torn between thinking its a PR stunt for an election year that won't get passed the public consultation stage and and unease on how easily this could potentially be bullied through with the right media attention.
Hi Issa,

Extremely good question.

Are they going to be species specific?

Again, excellent question.

Answer.

Unsure, there is much too much argument at present as to what template structure is actually going to be used to define the cop's for reptiles.

I am aware of a template example currently under study.

As to how species specific they are likely to be, this is again a question of debate.

There is talk from one quarter that it may be a very generalised cop, whilst other quarters would like to see them species specific, personally however l feel that whilst not 100% species specific there should be some very clear species distinctions placed upon them.

As to your second question, let me acquaint my research with what our American colleagues are discussing and then l can answer in how that may affect us here.

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This is what you are refering to , yes?

Feds Move To Ban Pythons & Boas - PetHobbyist.com Site Blog
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yep thats the one.
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It would make sense for them to be species specific. There are far too many variables between individual species requirements to even try and cover them all under a 1 general catagory. I see the intent of these COP is to set a standard of keeping expected, go above and beyond that standard all well and good, fall below it and thats where problems follow as it will clear what is expected in black and white with very little wriggle room or grey areas. For this to work, pretty much each individual species currently held in captivity needs its own cop. It would be like saying a Rat and Skunk (to use 2 examples that I'm sure your familiar with) required the same type of care simply because they were both mammals.
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Rory, sorry if ive missed it completly, you may have told me already, but when are we the general public likely to see these COP's for ourselves, however developed they are?
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