Reptile Forums UK  

Go Back   Reptile Forums UK > General > General Herp Chat > Hobby Issues & Information

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 14-02-2008, 08:45 PM
RFUK Premium Membership
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 1,576
Send a message via MSN to TSKA Rory Matier
Default Whatever next................?

Again, l hear of both Monkeyworld and the RSPCA raising a new call for the end to private primate keeping - to begin with - ?

'To Begin with' ........ an interesting comment for them to make, especially from the likes of Monkeyworld?

But this can make some sense, if they were to be successful in the prohibiting of primates, then what would be next?

Specialised exotic cats? Specialised exotic animals? Then perhaps the weaker segments of the reptile trade? Then the final curtain for the hard corists.

For some obscure reason - our learned fellows - the Tortoise keepers seemingly believe that they would be exempt from any ban, for the emphasis would be on the likes of snakes and lizards alone?

Tort guys, why would you think such a thing - 'one for all and all for one' would be the credo held by the opposition in the end to exotic keeping!

Back to primates and the banning of private ownership, l do feel that if this was going to happen, it could occur much quicker than primate keepers may think possible, unless of course we experience a much needed new governmental election success, l do feel with the likes of the Benns in power and aghast with exotic keeping as they are, then the count down to exotic species extinction may be atop of us now.

Unless we do get a new government in seat, l think our days are now seriously numbered.

If the banning of primates were to be successful this could be in as little as two years! And if we do see a banning before a new government take seat, they could not overturn a ban. How many bans could be in place before we see a new government?

Yes, oh yes indeedy, here is that magical figure 2010 again, ring any bells readers?

I acknowledge that there are readers amongst this forum that will in fact rebuke what l write and so be it - DO SO! But the facts are starting to come a tumbling in now, these facts are simple - they - yes they the opposition want to see the prohibition, restriction and collapse of this industry and all its exotic followers!

The call for codes of practice should be stronger, and l still can not hear anything, Ghostbusters anthem received more of a chorus line. The voices of the keepers should be louder, but sadly still you are a quiet bunch indeed.

I have said this before, primates may not mean much to non primate keepers, but if they do go, it will be a guarantee that the rest of y'all will follow before long!

On a side note, how effective really are the likes of petitions to the 'fantastic government' in power at present?

Rory Matier
PKL- Home to PKA

Primates - Countdown 22 months?
__________________
Have you signed?






"I know what l believe and l believe what l know"

Sarcasm, the highest form of intelligence – UNLESS – you suffer from brain deprivation, and sadly you are just plain stupid!!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 15-02-2008, 12:37 AM
gtm gtm is online now
Ultra Citizen
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1,660
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TSKA Rory Matier View Post
Again, l hear of both Monkeyworld and the RSPCA raising a new call for the end to private primate keeping - to begin with - ?

'To Begin with' ........ an interesting comment for them to make, especially from the likes of Monkeyworld?

But this can make some sense, if they were to be successful in the prohibiting of primates, then what would be next?

Specialised exotic cats? Specialised exotic animals? Then perhaps the weaker segments of the reptile trade? Then the final curtain for the hard corists.

For some obscure reason - our learned fellows - the Tortoise keepers seemingly believe that they would be exempt from any ban, for the emphasis would be on the likes of snakes and lizards alone?

Tort guys, why would you think such a thing - 'one for all and all for one' would be the credo held by the opposition in the end to exotic keeping!

Back to primates and the banning of private ownership, l do feel that if this was going to happen, it could occur much quicker than primate keepers may think possible, unless of course we experience a much needed new governmental election success, l do feel with the likes of the Benns in power and aghast with exotic keeping as they are, then the count down to exotic species extinction may be atop of us now.

Unless we do get a new government in seat, l think our days are now seriously numbered.

If the banning of primates were to be successful this could be in as little as two years! And if we do see a banning before a new government take seat, they could not overturn a ban. How many bans could be in place before we see a new government?

Yes, oh yes indeedy, here is that magical figure 2010 again, ring any bells readers?

I acknowledge that there are readers amongst this forum that will in fact rebuke what l write and so be it - DO SO! But the facts are starting to come a tumbling in now, these facts are simple - they - yes they the opposition want to see the prohibition, restriction and collapse of this industry and all its exotic followers!

The call for codes of practice should be stronger, and l still can not hear anything, Ghostbusters anthem received more of a chorus line. The voices of the keepers should be louder, but sadly still you are a quiet bunch indeed.

I have said this before, primates may not mean much to non primate keepers, but if they do go, it will be a guarantee that the rest of y'all will follow before long!

On a side note, how effective really are the likes of petitions to the 'fantastic government' in power at present?

Rory Matier
PKL- Home to PKA

Primates - Countdown 22 months?
You are correct us tortoise keepers (for my sins I am one) do live in our own little world. We spend far to much time bickering with each other to even contemplate that someone might want to take our beloved tortoises away from us. We'll be as much help as a chocolate hot water bottle in the upcoming battle - sorry in advance: blush:
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 15-02-2008, 04:26 PM
RFUK Premium Membership
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 1,576
Send a message via MSN to TSKA Rory Matier
Default

I would not be that bothered GTM, at the very least you have placed a response in.

Where as many keepers now apparently do not have the bottle to speak up about any of the politics that are surrounding their passion.

This was not a stab at the tortoise owners more of a wake up call to all reptile keepers.

Facts are out there for the counting and the reading.

BUT as usual, people have lost their voices, and when they will be shouting will when it will possibly be way too late.

Primates do not bother those who do not keep them, but if this was the hard push on reptiles, with primate keepers being at the bottom of the rating l think we would be seeing more responses.

R
__________________
Have you signed?






"I know what l believe and l believe what l know"

Sarcasm, the highest form of intelligence – UNLESS – you suffer from brain deprivation, and sadly you are just plain stupid!!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 15-02-2008, 04:40 PM
SiUK's Avatar
Somerset boy
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: South west
Posts: 13,549
Default

it is a worrying thought althoughI am not a primate keeper I do have an interest in all aspects of exotic keeping, and one ban could very easily lead to another, but I still wonder if an outright ban is likely maybe thats naive, I can see its possible it could happen but I could see a much stricter licensing scheme coming in instead of a total ban, I dont mind a licensing scheme for keeping animals, much like your codes of practise but legally binding, I wouldnt mind proving I can look after the animals I keep, I already have to, to some extent.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 15-02-2008, 04:53 PM
gtm gtm is online now
Ultra Citizen
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1,660
Default

They'll pick off primates 1st and then the DWA guys and the rest of us after that.

By all means give us Tortoise Keepers a 'stabbing' - we more than any exotic people deserve it!!!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 15-02-2008, 05:05 PM
SiUK's Avatar
Somerset boy
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: South west
Posts: 13,549
Default

im not so sure about DWA because its relatively strictly licensed anyway, and its not like it causes a major problem, I hope they dont ban it anyway
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 15-02-2008, 10:03 PM
RFUK Premium Membership
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 1,576
Send a message via MSN to TSKA Rory Matier
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gtm View Post
They'll pick off primates 1st and then the DWA guys and the rest of us after that.

By all means give us Tortoise Keepers a 'stabbing' - we more than any exotic people deserve it!!!
You are a smart and wise cookie GTM , you have got it, it will be specialist animals first and then the rest. And no, l do not think the torty keepers need a good stabbing anymore than the rest of the exotic world do.

R
__________________
Have you signed?






"I know what l believe and l believe what l know"

Sarcasm, the highest form of intelligence – UNLESS – you suffer from brain deprivation, and sadly you are just plain stupid!!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 16-02-2008, 12:47 AM
kaimarion's Avatar
Awsome
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Scotland (North Ayrshire)
Posts: 1,211
Send a message via MSN to kaimarion
Default

Would really suck if they did bring in a ban but its unlikely.

But what the hell am I supposed to do???
Sorry about the question ^^^ as I'am half asleep.
__________________
BOSC FOR SALE
> <
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 25-02-2008, 12:07 AM
miffikins's Avatar
Premier Citizen
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Manchester/Swansea
Posts: 2,197
Default

Do you think they would propose some form of licensing scheme before an outright ban??

__________________
Kate

2.2.2 - Eublepharis macularius0.1.0 - Sceloporus malachiticus 1.1.0 - Varanus acanthurus brachyurus0.0.1 - Tiliqua gigas evanescens 0.4.0 - Felis catus 1.0.0 - Fat, old goldfish
Lots of tropical fish...
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 25-02-2008, 12:16 AM
Frogeye 1050's Avatar
Be happy, ride Triumphs.
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Langley Mill, Derbyshire
Posts: 1,018
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by miffikins View Post
Do you think they would propose some form of licensing scheme before an outright ban??

As they could see a way of making more free money from us by doing that, I suspect it would be a strong contender for how they would proceed.
__________________
Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead.
Do not walk ahead of me, for I may not follow.
Do not walk beside me either, just f*** off and leave me alone.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump


Exotic Pet Sites


Help For Heros

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright © 2005 - 2008, Reptile Forums UK (RFUK™)