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Old 04-06-2008, 08:21 PM
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Default Sandfire Baby Beardies for sale, Erith/Kent

7 Sandfire Baby beardies for sale, asking £20 each, it was originally 13, 4 were sold, 2 are reserved, so 7 remaining.

Location is Erith, just off of Dartford, Kent.

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Old 05-06-2008, 12:01 AM
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When you say sandfire, what do you mean, both parents coming form the sandfire ranch? Or just the colour being simialr to what is classed "sandfire"?
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:22 AM
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says babies are green on that ad...im confused are they normals?? dont think they are 'sandfire' if they where you wouldnt have any left at the price
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:06 AM
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Yes both parents are Sandfire, so I would take a guess and say all the little ones are aswell.

They are green because the babies are green, whether they stay green later on is a different question, it is possible that the babies at a later stage could be yellow or maybe even a lime, just like there parents.
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Old 07-06-2008, 03:04 PM
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5 Baby Beardies remaining, 2 still reserved.
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Old 07-06-2008, 06:21 PM
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I had four of the little fellas, and they are excellent. Not skittish and showing good colours with every shed.
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If they true Sandfires U wanna be charging more than that
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Old 07-06-2008, 06:52 PM
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Yes both parents are Sandfire, so I would take a guess and say all the little ones are aswell.

They are green because the babies are green, whether they stay green later on is a different question, it is possible that the babies at a later stage could be yellow or maybe even a lime, just like there parents.

I really feel within the bearded dragon selling commnity something needs to be done in classifieds to stop people using registered trademarked MORH names form american breeders...

I know someone who paid a thousand pounds for a true sandfire dragon bred beardie.. he came with all his paperwork when imported and a pedigree bith certificate.. its the same as the cats and dogs register in this country...

unless they are from the sandfire dragon ranch in america they are NOT sandfire sorry....

please see here..

Sandfire™ Dragon Ranch


if they were sandfire dragon reptiles they would have emailed confirmation of birth certificates and pedigree.. the parents would have this pedigree certificate of proof.. and that shows they are carrying true morphs..

the words citrus and sandifre and bloodred is being used now when a beardie has never been bred by the breeders that have the copyright to these actual names and YES they actually have the morph name copyrighted much like with royal pythons.. you cant call something a lemon line royal python morph if it isnt...

i think from now on in classifieds it would bebetter if people were selling beardies to make sure they call them the proper names..

saying orange colourings.. or yellow colourings on the body.. is fine... but even beardies in the wild have these colours..
having a l;itle bit of green does not make them sandfire... thats liek saying.. my cat has a brown nose therefore its a siamese...

sandfire morph is a trademark of that particular breeder calling a dragon sandifre does not make it one.. they actually paid to have it trademarked...

its like calling a tabby kitten a bengal or a toyger.... simple moggies are not pedigrees just because u call them that..

you can get gorgeous highly coloured orange and yellow beardies but the chances of it being a true sandfire dragon ranch beardie is VERY slim.. they cost hundereds and hundreds to import and buy and get them here..


i think people need to be made more aware that these names are actually in america REAL morph names.. not just a colour name to pin on a beardie that shows a little orange or green or red on its body...

at £20 though noone would seriously think they came from sandfire dragon ranch parents.. and £20 is afabby price..
its just the description thats wrong..
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:41 PM
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I am glad your still happy with the beardies Blakejorel, and thanks for the support, but there criticism coming from certain people, wouldn't get involved, but thanks again for your support.

£20.00 a bearded dragon is a great, sandfire or not sandfire, that is still great, and the picture is true to there colours, what you see, is what you get, with the detail, and you even get offered a cup of tea if you have have travelled long distance like portsmouth.

For anyone who wants to know why I am selling at £20.00 when it could be more, it is space, there is more going to hatch very soon.

But Sparkle there is no reason why you should be in this thread, you have absolute no intention of buying, your not asking related questions to this thread, all you are doing is criticizing, if I recall this is lizard classifieds not criticism classifieds. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Change the subject to dogs, presume cats and many other animals aswell. Pedigree with another Pedigree, i.e yorkshire terrier with yorkshire terrier will give yorkshire terrier puppies which will be pedigree with or without papers, only through mixing the breeds will result in a Mongrel. Sandfire with a Sandfire, the babies will be Sandfire with or without pedigree certificates.

I dont really see a problem using Sandfire, other than Sandfire Dragon Ranch is a registered name, quote Sandfire Dragon Ranch. I hope this doesn't discourage anyone from buying.

There is still 5 baby beardies remaining, still 2 others reserved, and 1 new hatchling.
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:28 AM
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I am just getting sick of people abusing proper morph names when they are not..

I appologise but I know the US breeders are fed up of it too.. it brings down their reputation when they have spent a LONG time building it up..

£20 is indeed an excellent price for a baby beardie... and i am sure they are very pretty highly coloured normals...

ive no doubt about it. But whether you USE a name or not.. it doesnt MAKE it what youre saying. in the snake classifieds if someone calls a snake VPI line or Bob Clark.. then the snake classified buyers go crazy if it blatantly isnt. its the same with leopard geckos.. if its a normal and you call it a tremper or a bell ( both breeders) then everyone explains why its not... someen recently called a snow corn a snow opal ( which it wasnt) and the snake classified readers corrected the guy there too...

why should it be so different for bearded dragons

Classifieds needs a new ruling to stop this happening its false advertising. And new buyers may not understand what they are buying isnt actually what is being sold.

i shall message t-bo regarding it and i wont post again within your thread.

hope you get your babis sold .
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