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Old 10-10-2007, 07:42 PM
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Thanks once again, i am doing the slurry method again tongiht, last time it didn't really go so good (the leo still refuses to open its mouth or even lick it). The substrate is a very fine sand that i bought directly from a pet store that is intended for lizards so probably not impaction.

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If it's Calci sand or another calcium-based substrate ... it probably IS impaction.

That stuff can be lethal, not least because it encourages the geckos to consume it to top up their calcium levels; it raises the PH of their stomach so their stomach acid can't actually dissolve it - and it has most certainly been found to be the cause of impaction and death in several leopard geckos. I'm sure I can pull up the necropsy photos if you're really interested.

The gecko does not have to WANT to open its mouth for you to be able to open its mouth - even a credit card wiggled in at the side of the mouth can help open his/her jaws.
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WOW this is freaky i was reading daves advice and problems he had and i was curious to see how much calcium was in the multivitamin that i was using. I have a feeling that 2.2% us pretty low compared to the percentages of everyone elses multivitamins. The staff at the pet store i go to are very friendly but there really is no expert on reptiles . In the mean time i am going to keep up the slurry's and try to get some pure calcium or somethign with a higher percentage. Comment please

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If you don't ask, Seth, you don't learn, and if you don't learn your reps might suffer. Never be afraid to ask for help.

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if shes on sand it probs is impaction is she pooing?

If not give her a bath and a massage]


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Sounds like impactation if you can see dark marks on her stomach and she is on sand.... I would take both leos off the sand ASAP and replace with kitchen roll or tiles.
Give her a warm bath, not too deep, and keep trying with the mushed up food.
Get a PURE calcium supplement and try and put some of that in the mush. Also some in the viv with her.
I would try and get her to a vet aswell, or atleast a reptile expert who may be able to help.
Do you have any pics?
What does her poo look like?
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I have a feeling that 2.2% us pretty low compared to the percentages of everyone elses multivitamins.
2.2% is actually... pretty abysmal.

I wouldn't even use that as an occasional supplement, personally.

What you need is minimum 16% calcium... and ideally as close to 100% as you can get.

If you've had the gecko on specialist "reptile sand" then it has probably been eating that to try to get more calcium.

How old are your geckos - and how big?

I would second getting rid of the sand, replacing it with paper towels, taking the skinny gecko to the vet as soon as you can ...
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Thanks, tonight i am planning to switch over to paper towl and give her a bath. Tomorow i'm goin to the pet store to get some calcium supliments. The leo that is sick is very very young, maybe 3 months?? She is 4 inches long. She hasn;t poo'ed in a while so it probably is impaction, but the last time she did poo (about 5 days ago) she was just as skinny as she is now.

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