been trying to read the site between posts

and Razaiel it is scary stuff and im ever so tempted to go and turn my UV fluorescent off!!!

im going to request the reports to add to my reading material and see if it helps me decide








isnt any one else curious about this????????

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I heard that the problems are confined to UV Compacts? or is that not the case anymore?

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from quick reading then, the compacts are seeming to cause more worry
but the fluorescents too!!!

its not really the uvb being produced thats the prob its how the lamps create it - compacts being more concentrated is the difference

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Which fluorescent tubes is it? All I can see on UVGuide is that its compact lamps.

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0.0.7 Northern Blue Tongue Skinks
0.0.8 Chuckwalla Eggs

Jos Little World - Monkey Tailed Skinks
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what i get is - the new more concentrated compacts have caused these unwanted effects to be noticed and that no intensive research was really done on flourescents but now its been noticed in the compacts they have investigated all uvb products from the major manufacturers.

and to see the results you have to download their report

but no problems have been recorded when using florescents lol

thats why for the moment im keeping my zoomed 10.0

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the key to getting the uv right is to research it. it is a big responsibility as the side effects can be very bad. I keep african torts and a beardy and they all require high uvb. I would never consider giving them a life with no uv at all as that is not really right in my eyes. Any uv can be detrimental to the animal, IF USED INCORRECTLY. but in most cases uv is beneficial and even vital to the creatures physical and mental wellbeing. we supplement high uv animals like beardys and african torts with D3 just to ensure that they recieve enough, but i have never been told to put nutrobal with every feed. i use it once week in the summer and twice a week in the winter. i also use pure calcium carbonate with every other feed to ensure the natural d3 has something to work with. My animals are all under powersun 160w lamps and these can be very scary for the un-initiated! the area infront of the lens can give off potentially fatal levels of uvb and can cause enermous problems. but at the right distances it will increase your animals appetite, breeding pattern, activity and colours.

again, the key is to research your animal, its requirements and the most suitable method of delivering the requirements. so a tropical animal will become ill under a desert lamp with high uv outputs. And i feel its also important to point out that an awful lot of animals can SEE the uv spectrum. we cant, so assume they dont really need it. so for an naimal that can see uv, to live without it , i imagine would be like us watching life in just black and white.

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well said, and that is my approach - it pays to research it was the MVB's that interested me as i want to try them - and as you say at the wrong distance can be very detrimental to the reps health

lots of people go off what the petshop say - some are good but others are just in it to make money

thats why i want this made a sticky so people have an easy link to read and educate themselves

Cheers tinkerbruce

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to be honest the best person to pm is t-bo, i hate making decisions, as i'd just fill up pages with stickys

Pm him and see what he says


Jay

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To UV or not to UV ... that is the question - and it's doing my head in. The MVBs are what I am thinking of using - just one - either in the middle of my bank of 3 halogen floods - or up the far end where I have just one halogen flood which is used to light up the cool end rather than heat it. I just wish we had the climate where we could do this ... YouTube - An Argus Afternoon