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Old 06-10-2008, 04:26 PM
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why can't this be done today? what about new breeds (labradoodle) how are they registered? i think the KC are missing a huge niche. they could train assessors, and people are believe they are in possesion of an outstanding un-registered dog, would be able to go and have their dog assessed, and if the dog conforms, they should be able to become members of the KC.
Labradoodles are crossbreeds not a breed and can not be registered.

Some mixes can look liek purebreeds - and they could be falsely registered under a scheme as you suggest - and why would we want to register dogs that were not registered - dogs that are not KC registered (but are KC registerable breeds) tend to not eb registered for several reasons

1. Accidental mating so not the best lines
2. Parents too old or too young so KC refuse
3. Restrictions placed on parents as not suitable for breeding but greedy people breed them anyway and offspring can't be registered
4. Parents have had too many litters so KC won't register
There are others but I can't think of them - but point being that any dog that CAN be registered generally is ... it's those with a reason for not being that aren't - and they tend to be ones who would be best not bred from anyway
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:35 PM
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Things are a changing!!

The RSPCA wont support crufts anymore because of this pegigree dog buisiness so lets hope this all makes change for the better.
No doubt you'll still see ads offering PURE BREEDS with no papers in he classifieds.
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I love the line "pedigree, but no papers"... Don't people know that a pedigree IS THE PAPERS??? *lol*
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Labradoodles are crossbreeds not a breed and can not be registered.
All pedigree breeds where Labradoodles at one point.Labradoodle though new where bred for a purpose like all pedigrees.Labradoodles was created as guide/help/assistance dogs for people with dog fur allergys.They have the coat of the Poodle(NON! shedding) and Labrador brain/intelligence.And they breed true.That's all the key trait that worrent pedigree status 1-has purpose 2-breeds true.So there is no reason why they can't be a registered breed.
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i notice it dosnt say that "thou shalt not breed father to daughter and mother to grandson " which sadly is the thing that is making the breeds so genetically deformed. its a crock of sh it , and dosnt really address the real problems only goes to try and cover them up to keep people happy.but wont do anything for the dogs being interbred.
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Any dog that needs fixing sergerically by a vet for example that peekanees that had to have it muzzle fixed.Or dogs with bad hip score'etc'etc so genetic bad traits.Should be castated or spayed never bred from if a vet says so.And the vet can do this with out breeders concent in the intested of the dog in question and future generations.

IMO somthing along this line should also be there.
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:24 PM
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i notice it dosnt say that "thou shalt not breed father to daughter and mother to grandson " which sadly is the thing that is making the breeds so genetically deformed. its a crock of sh it , and dosnt really address the real problems only goes to try and cover them up to keep people happy.but wont do anything for the dogs being interbred.
YES! that deffo should be there.
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Any dog that needs fixing sergerically by a vet for example that peekanees that had to have it muzzle fixed.Or dogs with bad hip score'etc'etc so genetic bad traits.Should be castated or spayed never bred from if a vet says so.And the vet can do this with out breeders concent in the intested of the dog in question and future generations.

IMO somthing along this line should also be there.
i quite agree, well said.
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:33 PM
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Any dog that needs fixing sergerically by a vet for example that peekanees that had to have it muzzle fixed.Or dogs with bad hip score'etc'etc so genetic bad traits.Should be castated or spayed never bred from if a vet says so.And the vet can do this with out breeders concent in the intested of the dog in question and future generations.

IMO somthing along this line should also be there.

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If i took my dog to the vet to have his ears syringed and he came back missing his danglies i'd be fuming and very very upset!!!!

For the record my dog is castrated but that is quite a hefty operation and for bitches more so. You have to sign a consent form in case your pet dies during surgery.

What if the vet had the power to go ahead and do these things without you even knowing!!
Please think about what you say before you say it!

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If i took my dog to the vet to have his ears syringed and he came back missing his danglies i'd be fuming and very very upset!!!!

For the record my dog is castrated but that is quite a hefty operation and for bitches more so. You have to sign a consent form in case your pet dies during surgery.

What if the vet had the power to go ahead and do these things without you even knowing!!
Please think about what you say before you say it!

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couldn't agree more , people should think the otherway aswell , as now some people are posting like how the bbc and rspca act ....one sided !!
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