Rats & Rspca

Faith · #1 (**permalink**) 01-07-2007, 02:03 AM

A friend gave me this link the rspca are trying to rehome him but they havent even got a proper water bottle in there with him and they rant at us for keeping our pets in poor conditions

Link to pic http://www.rspca.org.uk/futuretense_cs/asm1/1229.jpg

Link to add Gonsal Farm Animal Centre - Search Animals Available for Adoption

Search species Rat and tick the box

Ssthisto · #2 (**permalink**) 01-07-2007, 07:19 AM

Is it possible that THAT particular rat never learned to use a bottle?

Granted, he can't learn if he's not given one....

BADGERS MUM · #3 (**permalink**) 01-07-2007, 07:27 AM

it may just be that theres nowhere to put a bottle as its a tank rather than cage,i had a hell of a job when keeping rats in tanks to stop them pulling the bottles off the holders and soaking the sawdust(they chewed everything i used and ended up with a bowl,that said im not a huge fan of the RSPCA,but i dont think that qualifies for cruelty

on the whole they do a reasonable job re homing its just the way they go about most other things thats shite

Faith · #4 (**permalink**) 01-07-2007, 02:35 PM

I dont agree with that they are handing out advice to people on a professional level all the time and on countless times they are wrong, it is possible that the rat has never been given a water bottle and its going to be hard to be able to fix one to a glass tank but whats the harm in them putting him in a proper cage like they tell people to

ikkintastic · #5 (**permalink**) 01-07-2007, 03:22 PM

Maybe they just couldn't fit one in that cage. We don't know the full story so we can't really jump to conclusions! I was always told not to keep rats in glass because of overheating and because chewing on metal bars is good for their teeth! I also thought water bowls were annoying when I had rats coz they always got sawdust in it and the water got dirty by them washing in it. I do agree that it's quite odd that they wouldn't provide it the best home ever, as that's what they expect us to do! But we have to remember that the RSPCA relies on donations only, is always very busy and they don't have many legal powers. They propably had limited space to keep him.
However, of the many times me or friends/relatives have rang the RSPCA they have never been much help. Recently I found a skinny cat and they asked me to do my own investigation to find out if it was a stay or not, and then rehome him myself! One woman on the phone even told me to collect the cat and bring him home for them to collect, another woman I spoke to said they wouldn't and that I should never have been told that.
My sister doesn't like them at all because they turned up once at the stables she worked in accusing them of mistreating a horse. The horse was Wings, over 20 years old and much loved. He was skinny because of old age and illness that was being treated. She said the officer was totally over the top, shouting at her and all sorts, before he even knew the full story.
Last summer (rememeber how hot it was?)she called them after she saw a dog in a car, howling his head off. They said that there was nothing they could do and the best option would be to phone the council and make a noise complaint!
A friend of mine found a lost puppy on the way home from the pub late one night, and the RSPCA said because the puppy was not injured there was nothing they could do. She couldn't take the puppy home because her house mate wouldn't let her. She had to put it in the garden and the next morning it was gone. What happened to the poor thing?
It seems to me that they will only help if an animal is already suffering, even though they are ment to be the royal society for the prevention of cruelty to animals.
An animal rights group in my area had to campaign to shut down a puppy farm and pet shop with appaling conditions after the RSPCA was no help. This guy would hoover out cages of hamsters with them still in, had a mouse buried in its own crap and the puppy farm was horrendous. They managed to shut it down after posting letters all round the area to warn customers off it. However, the pet shop is still open but doesn't sell pets just equipment, so no offical punishment came to him.

But we must remember that they have done some amazing work, and saved plently of animals and brought many evil animal abusers to justice. With out them there would be more animal suffering in the UK. I guess we can't expect them to be able to do everything!

Faith · #6 (**permalink**) 01-07-2007, 03:33 PM

I agree we cant expect them to do everything so why do they try ?
as for them relying on public dontation only for them to be a charity they have to pull in over 5 k a year and considering they are paying their own wages etc as well as paying for training and blah blah yes i know they have lots of centers to be kept and they prob have to pay out a lot more than we know. The point is they are now knocking on peoples doors telling them about the new animal welfare bill and how they are going to be policing them selfs going in to peoples homes and threating to take them to court when they dont have the power to they are using scare tatics and its working there is another thread on this forum about warning rspca and that thread was bassed on rats so if they are so quick to go out and tell people they are keeping their pets in the wrong conditions why are they not looking closer to home?

daikenkai · #7 (**permalink**) 01-07-2007, 04:09 PM

they see themselves as more of an authority than a charity IMO.

babyburm · #8 (**permalink**) 01-07-2007, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ikkintastic

However, of the many times me or friends/relatives have rang the RSPCA they have never been much help. Recently I found a skinny cat and they asked me to do my own investigation to find out if it was a stay or not, and then rehome him myself! One woman on the phone even told me to collect the cat and bring him home for them to collect, another woman I spoke to said they wouldn't and that I should never have been told that.
My sister doesn't like them at all because they turned up once at the stables she worked in accusing them of mistreating a horse. The horse was Wings, over 20 years old and much loved. He was skinny because of old age and illness that was being treated. She said the officer was totally over the top, shouting at her and all sorts, before he even knew the full story.
Last summer (rememeber how hot it was?)she called them after she saw a dog in a car, howling his head off. They said that there was nothing they could do and the best option would be to phone the council and make a noise complaint!
A friend of mine found a lost puppy on the way home from the pub late one night, and the RSPCA said because the puppy was not injured there was nothing they could do. She couldn't take the puppy home because her house mate wouldn't let her. She had to put it in the garden and the next morning it was gone. What happened to the poor thing?
It seems to me that they will only help if an animal is already suffering, even though they are ment to be the royal society for the prevention of cruelty to animals.

This sounds familiar, my next door neighbot had a greyhound and would keep him in a tiny little cage with a concrete floor and the only time they would let him out was once on a blue moon, they would put him in our garden for him to do his business and we called the RSPCA countless amount of times and they wouldn't do anything and claimed that he is perfectly fine.

bosshogg · #9 (**permalink**) 01-07-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by daikenkai

they see themselves as more of an authority than a charity IMO.

i totally agree with that! i have to wrok alongside them as i run a rescue but i dont agree with there Policies on a lot of things

LouiseK · #10 (**permalink**) 01-07-2007, 07:12 PM

No one would work for the RSPCA unless they loved animals and the jobs are incredibly hard to come by so i find it hard to believe they wouldn't act in the best interest of the animal in a given situation.

If and its a big IF imo that there was a case where they were acting to a standard that is hypocritical of what they preach i'd stick it down to the individual.

There is always an aspects of decisions that aren't expressed publically for various reasons.

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