if you actually read the post and you will see its the strangers bugging the dog when hes said leave it alone...hence ..THEIR fault..even when the op trys to remove the dog the children follow

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no offense but I'm intrigued, have you had your jack Russel since it was a pup? is there anyway a child could have gotten to him? do you have children of your own?

i know they seem silly questions but the way i see it if a dog is afraid of someone there is a reason, your dog seems to be afraid of children,

i know my dog is afraid of men in red t-shirts i feel it is because the man i bought her from wore a red t-shirt the day i got her and maybe she was abused by him, she isn't afraid of men but if one gives her a command it is done straight away but seems more like fear than obeying,

i know my friend has a very nervous cat, my friend and his GF argue a lot and if you raise your voice she will literally pee herself were she stands, they also have a 1 year old who treats her like a teddy and she freaks if you try to touch her,

small things can have big impacts on animals for many years to come, maybe your jack Russel has had a bad run in with a child and this is the reason he cowers,

a mussel may be a temporary fix but it isn't a solution to what may be a deeper issue

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My dogs is like this, has never showed any sign of aggresion towards a kid but runs half a mile when one comes near!!! We rarely ever see children so its ok for me but a muzzle will be a prevention jsut in case...but you still need to get to the underlying problem with WHY he is acting that way...how old is the dog and how much interaction with children has it had since puppy?? Mine doesnt like the ''excited'' energy kids give off. Dont meen to get all ''Cesar'' on you but the way kids energy comes off isn't good for a dog that isnt used to it...not your fault though of course!!

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Your making it sound as if I'm letting him run loose to chase after the kids and bite them! He is kept on his lead as I do not trust him with people, he is perfect with dogs tough. It does clearly state this in the original post, saying that he ties me up with his lead he is that scared. It also says that I tell them not to touch him, but they dont listen. I can easily blame the child, as when I was growing up my mum and dad always told me not to go straight up and stroke a dog, ask its owner if you can first. However, these children come running up screaming and shouting aww its small and cute then bend down to stroke him, then he cowers away and I tell them he bites, they find this amusing and carry on. When I'm out with him people think that as he is small he will be ok to stroke, but I tell them not to. It is not my place to shout at the child, so what do you expect?

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It may sound odd, but once when he was at the vet, she put her hand up his bum, and he really went for the vet then..this was the first bit of aggression he showed, and it carried on since then. As I say its only with little kids, but I dont see how the two connect.
We got him when he was 7 weeks old. We know the family very well, they have 2 children, one about 8 and one 13. then he came to live with us, I'm 13, and he didnt bond with me very well at the beginning, he prefered my mum, but now he wont stop following me around! he's so attatched to me it gets annoying sometimes , but he is used to kids i guess, so im not sure.

Also if they are in our house he is ok, with anyone. He must think that he is safe in his home and we wouldnt let anyone harmful in or something? but he barks at the gate a lot.

Oh and he is 2 next month

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If they are acting in this way they are obviously giving off some bad vibes which may make you tense in that situation and the dog picks up on it...and your right people should always ask to stroke your dog beforehand!! Is there anyway you could take your dog to a child (you know) to see if you can overcome the situation? I meen it wont stop the buggers annoying you in the street but may help your dog to be able to deal with the situation better and not relate kids to fearfull aggresion, just a thought hope you manage to get it sorted!! x

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sometimes on this forum peoples opinions can come off a little strong i see what you are saying Luke and i honestly thought from the first few posts that the option of muzzling your dog was pelted at you rather then suggested as a small measure,

i know as a child i was always told you don't touch another dog and as cheeky said the excitement children give off can be unnerving it unnerves me and I'm a 26year old woman not a dog (although i can be a bitch)

all i was trying to ask was do you think there may be a reason your dog is afraid of children,

cos face it in these times who knows what a child will do to your dog, Ive had some little punk round here try throwing stones at mine for no other reason than fun, but i have a large lab that loves to catch what you throw at her in her mouth and when she caught said stone it scared him more but you get my drift

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All I can think of is that your dog's first ever experience with a little person was negative. Something as simple as a child accidentally poking him in the eye when they went to pet him is enough to give a dog a negative association with children forever more, until it is addressed. So I too would agree that a behaviorist could help.

I also have to agree with the lack of manners some people show when you're out with a dog. I have a guide dog puppy in training, and when I take her out, more often than not kids run across the street, shouting at the top of their lungs, to see her. While I appreciate they mean no harm and are being friendly, it really is exceptionally irritating cos it interferes with her concentration, and I have to start again. She's a very friendly pup, and now that she's getting bigger if she jumped up in excitement at a kid she could easily knock them off their feet. Obviously though I make sure this doesn't happen, I tighten my hold on her and shorten her lead whenever there are kids approaching.

But yeah, why do many parents no longer drill it into their kids never to go near a dog without asking first?

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Whether you agree with me or not is irrelevant, you have a legal responsibility not to allow your dog to bite children. If children chase you through the park at full speed terrorising you after you've warned them your dog bites (and I'm sorry I just don't believe that) then it is your legal responsibility to muzzle him and find another place to walk.

Children will not get prosecuted or put down if your dog bites them. You will get prosecuted and your dog will be put down if you continue to say you can't stop your dog (a small, easily picked up dog) to bite them. It's nothing short of ridiculous to say you can't prevent it, it's absolute bull. Put a muzzle on your dog and walk it elsewhere, for heaven's sake, it's that easy! There is no "smaller measure" as people are suggesting, because you've made it clear you can't keep children from petting him and he has already bitten more than once.

If you can't do that, you are not fulfilling your legal responsibility under the Dangerous Dogs Act. Doesn't matter whether you like it or not, it's the bloody law!

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If you muzzle him, you'll find those kids wont come up and pester him too.

I dont see the big deal really, why not muzzle him for both his safety and the childrens? A muzzle wont harm him or psychologically damage him, he can still bark and drink and breath ok with a basket muzzle on.

I dont see why anyone wouldn't muzzle their dog if it had bitten before and they couldn't keep people away from him. If you honestly cant stop people coming up to him (hmm) then you have to make him safe.

If you cant or wont do that, you're not doing what's best for HIM, as he will end up getting into trouble and losing his life because you dont want to be responsible.

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