as above

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you can get tail less rats???

hmmm sounds like a deformaty if it wass me buying one i wouldnt be paying more! x

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I would only pay a rescue fee for one from a decent rescue (for example Minerva's recent rescue litter), paying a breeder for one would only encourage them to make more deformed rats. I got one from a decent breeder where it just cropped up in one rat, I didn't pay a penny for her.

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KathyM

0.1 Candycane Cornsnake - "Queenie"
1.0 Amelanistic Cornsnake - "George"
1.0 Baird's Ratsnake - "Baldrick"

Were Laura's not from a breeder who cut the tails off?

Also I'm sure she doesn't let her rescues be bred from!!!

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Got too many to mention!!!!!!

I have nearly all my information on my site now.
There are rat and hamster litters and pics of the ones I have.
http://nimbusstud.weebly.com/our-hamsters.html

I wouldn;t pay a penny for tailless rats.... The cons definitely outweigh the pros in terms of health. I don;t see why people can;t be happy with rat with tails, the way they're meant to be.

And yeah, Laura's were from a breeder who'd cut the tails off >_<

I don;t think Kathy is saying that Laura would allow her rats to be bred from, I think she's saying about breeders who breed tailless rats

Agreed, I wouldn't want to encourage the breeding of these guys and would only ever take them on as rescues. Breeding tailess rats is a very contentious (sp??) issue and would attract a lot of 'bad press' for the breeder- not what you want if you ever planned to be considered a high profile, ethical and reliable breeder. Bad news travels fast amongst the rat community!

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Yes they were from a `breeder`who chops their tails off, tailless rats made that way are quite common...unfortuanately.

However finding the genetic tailless as opposed to the man-made sort....can be difficult, and the genuine ones often have problems way beyond that of a normal rat.
I know they sometimes pop up accidentally from responsible breeders and established lines, usually Siamese/Burmese, and i know in the UK, they arent bred from because of this.

Why would anybody want to breed them purposely, specifically for tailless where you are breeding from essentially disabled rats, is beyond me.
Seems cash is always the motivation.

And you are correct Dawn about the rescue rats here, I'm not letting any go to be bred from.

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We also have rescue Rats needing homes too. Please click HERE for more information.

I wouldn't want one personally (unless it was a rescue). However, if I had no morals and thought it was ok - I wouldn't pay any more than any other variety of rat.

You'll find that most (all) reputable breeders charge the same amount for whatever the variety, colour, fur, ear or tail type - as all cost the same to raise, and reputable breeders aren't breeding for profit, they charge to cover food, care and housing. So therefore a hairless/tailless/dumbo/agouti top eared would all cost the same.

Or should, in an ideal world, but there's always those out to make some pennies.

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Bohemian Rats

Ps. I've not read anyone, let alone Kathy, suggest Laura sells rescues on for breeding from. I think someone didnt read properly and got the wrong end of the stick!

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Bohemian Rats