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Old 08-12-2007, 04:25 PM
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The debate about vaccinations will ALWAYS be there......many agree with vaccinations, many disagree with vaccinations, just like dog food and diets etc

Take a look at Canine Health Concern for more info on a whole host of topics......I am all for natural products in many things, only a few months ago finding out about leading flea treatments and bad reactions in dogs.....also rymadyl, used so widely in the pet industry.....but many people don't know it was originally tested for the 'human' market until there were so many cases of BAD reactions......hey guess what.......so it was decided to introduce it into the pet market......UNBELEIVABLE
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Old 08-12-2007, 04:34 PM
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will u be putting your new dog in kennels because it only needs the k/c vaccination if it's going into kennels. i payed £18 for first vaccination & the same for the 2nd one which was 2 weeks later wormers are about £3 each i would ask for a break down of the bill if i were u, front line is about £20.plus which lasts 3 months but as he got fleas
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Old 08-12-2007, 05:16 PM
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I doubt he will go into kennels ever and no he hasn't got fleas. I think the jab was £49, the kennel cough jobby was £20, Frontline spot on stuff was £22 and the woming tablet £1.90 or something like that. I have been reading on the net and there are just as many people against vaccinations as for but I think to be on the safe side I will get the next jabs on Friday then probably not get anymore. According to one site the parvo virus was caused by a company growing a canine vaccination on cats brains that was infected with something else!
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:40 AM
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i always give a puppy its 1st corse of jabs but that where ends,my 4 yr old staffie had his 1st n now hes 4 n not bin bak 2 vets since.my friends r game keeps who all keep up 2 nine dogs which all live in out door kennals and r all working dogs n not 1 of em get there dogs jabbed.guess its a matter of opinion but i think the vets r pulling wool over peoples eyes
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:58 AM
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i always give a puppy its 1st corse of jabs but that where ends,my 4 yr old staffie had his 1st n now hes 4 n not bin bak 2 vets since.my friends r game keeps who all keep up 2 nine dogs which all live in out door kennals and r all working dogs n not 1 of em get there dogs jabbed.guess its a matter of opinion but i think the vets r pulling wool over peoples eyes
ABSOLOUTLY - your dead right.......it's all about MONEY........this exsists in both pet and human circles........a very sad fact of life but unfortunately true
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This one is a right pain as far as we breeders are concerned.

Fact the manufacturers recommendation for most vaccines now is once every 3 yrs.
Fact if you ask a vet for a copy of said manu's paperwork they have to give it to you by law.
Fact dogs are now DYING from heamoragic (sp?) and autoimmune disorders caused by too many vaccinations.

The K/C vaccine won't cover all forms of the disease nor will it last longer than 6 mths on the ones it does cover ergo most breeders I know don't give it.

Also for the other 'stuff' he did try this link to purchase online at way cheaper prices than your vets.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:04 AM
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ABSOLOUTLY - your dead right.......it's all about MONEY........this exsists in both pet and human circles........a very sad fact of life but unfortunately true
I wouldn't hesitate to vaccinate my dog (or any other animal which had vaccinations available to protect it from horrible (and expensive) diseases.

I would then booster it the following year but, especially in dogs, I think if they are walking out, they will come across virus and bacteria and develop their own immunity to diseases and so I wouldn't booster after that. However, as puppies they absolutely cannot do that.

I know of someone who breeds Bernese Mountain Dogs and she vaccinates her puppies and then blood tests. Quite often there are not sufficient antibodies in the blood after the vaccination, so she vaccinates again until she gets the necessary antibody count. After that she will blood test the following year and if the antibody count is still high, then she doesn't booster then or again.

Also I think it can depend on where you live - if you live in the country in a fairly isolated area, you dog will not come across the viruses etc that a dog will who is living and exercising in a large town or city where there are a lot of dogs.

And yes, there is no question that we over-vaccinate our animals, but then vaccinations and boosters and the "bread and butter" for most vets, so not all of them will give you this information. I have never boostered my cats annually, but did them every 3 years until they were 10 years old and then stopped. My vet feels that after 10 years of boosters any cat should have sufficient antibodies to protect it. However, for cat people, this does not apply to the Feline Leukaemia vaccination - this is a manufactured virus vaccine and should be boostered annually if your cat goes out and is at risk.
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My vetinary nurse told me something similar to whats been said

He said that some of the vaccine the immunisations cover the illnesses for 3-7 years and he did mention that there is an on going argument about over vaccinating dogs

he also said hush i dint tell you that lol
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Our loval vet charges £55 for a puppy pack, which includes all the puppy jabs , microchip, worm treatment, frontline, a £5 voucher for neutering/spaying and a health check. (oh and a goody bag filled with samples ect )
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Our loval vet charges £55 for a puppy pack, which includes all the puppy jabs , microchip, worm treatment, frontline, a £5 voucher for neutering/spaying and a health check. (oh and a goody bag filled with samples ect )
Thats a very good deal! I think the vet i use is just an expensive one because everyone else in my area who uses a different one say theirs are cheaper.

I am going to get the next lot done on Friday then that will do I think.

The people who haven't had their dogs done do they keep the puppies in still or just take them out straight away?
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