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Old 28-01-2008, 08:13 PM
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Hi this is my first post on here and I've fed raw for about 10 years but with all the positive remarks on here I just worry that people can jump into this without being aware that it isn't risk free.

I have known a barf fed lab that suffered bloat, a barf fed dog that became impacted with bone and a barf puppy that got very sick with Compalabacter.

I still think it's the best way to feed but you have to go in with your eyes open. I have had extremely long lived dogs on this diet - gsd 15years, gsd x collie 17 years and a mongrel that lived till he was 18 years - all barf fed for half of their lives or more.
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Old 28-01-2008, 08:55 PM
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Yes your right, whatever you feed there will always be some points of discussion both pro's and con's......I agree that this way is the BEST and ONLY way to feed but this is MY opinion, others make up their own minds, for anyone who decides to go this way it is up to them to also put the time and effort in to finding out and reading up in more detail on such a topic like this way of feeding.........for the dogs you mention to me, it rings that they did not research properly, as anyone who knows how to feed this diet properly will NOT get their dog impacted on bone

There will ALWAYS be people for and against this diet, some through fear, some lack of understanding and some, I guess a lot, that if people convert to this diet in their tousands and more then will be panicing like mad that their profits will take a tumble in the crap that they produce.......

All I will say and compare to the likes of david Icke.......he was made out to be a looney over 10 years ago with the things he was coming out with about various stuff.....BUT.....look whats happening in todays world, what he said is and has happened on various scales and the authorities of power know he is right, so lets outcast him as a nutter to COVER the truth.....hhhhmmmm strange isn't it..........same in the pet food industry, lets play on peoples fears and actually hide the TRUTH as to how processed food is made and what is actually in it and carry on scaremongering about RAW feeding to keep people like robots and sheeps....at the end of the day it all boils down to MONEY and PROFITS and not the overall well-being of the animals (pet food companys perspective).........

Time will be the judge, as more and more people feed this way and find their animals are living much longer and active lifestyles then people may stop and think about it.......which I hope is not too late ;(

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Hi this is my first post on here and I've fed raw for about 10 years but with all the positive remarks on here I just worry that people can jump into this without being aware that it isn't risk free.

I have known a barf fed lab that suffered bloat, a barf fed dog that became impacted with bone and a barf puppy that got very sick with Compalabacter.

I still think it's the best way to feed but you have to go in with your eyes open. I have had extremely long lived dogs on this diet - gsd 15years, gsd x collie 17 years and a mongrel that lived till he was 18 years - all barf fed for half of their lives or more.
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Old 28-01-2008, 09:18 PM
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Tell me about it labmad, I work in a pet shop and the food reps can't even GIVE their stuff to me for free. They're always trying to get me to feed my dogs on their food - I just laugh.
I do believe that there is a place for commercial dog food - apart from the bin )

There are a lot of people in the world who are dog owners rather than dog lovers. Many can't be bothered to learn, source and prepare a proper diet for their dog - christ there's a fair few can't even feed their kids properly so not much chance for the animals - turkey twizzlers and blue pop anyone? Dog food might be a bit crappy but millions of dogs tick over on it.

BTW the impacted dog owner was pretty experienced and did loads of reading and research - just one of those things - and he still feeds raw to his other dogs.

I've occasionally given my dogs a cuttle fish bone to chew on - cleans teeth and a good source of calcium - not sure it could completely replace the bones in the diet though.
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Old 28-01-2008, 10:58 PM
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dam evie got some issues with turkey twizzlers n blue pop is ace lol. ( sorry all to deviate from the topic)
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Old 28-01-2008, 11:08 PM
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Tell me about it labmad, I work in a pet shop and the food reps can't even GIVE their stuff to me for free. They're always trying to get me to feed my dogs on their food - I just laugh.
I do believe that there is a place for commercial dog food - apart from the bin )

There are a lot of people in the world who are dog owners rather than dog lovers. Many can't be bothered to learn, source and prepare a proper diet for their dog - christ there's a fair few can't even feed their kids properly so not much chance for the animals - turkey twizzlers and blue pop anyone? Dog food might be a bit crappy but millions of dogs tick over on it.

BTW the impacted dog owner was pretty experienced and did loads of reading and research - just one of those things - and he still feeds raw to his other dogs.

I've occasionally given my dogs a cuttle fish bone to chew on - cleans teeth and a good source of calcium - not sure it could completely replace the bones in the diet though.
My rescue that i took in Marni was fed on maccy d's happy meals with his previous owners..............he is now on the Raw diet with my others and looking excellant for it
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Old 29-01-2008, 04:49 PM
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I used to know someone with a lab and they gave it curry whenevery they had them.......morons

If there is money to be made from animal illnesses, MANY diet related, then pet food companys will do EVERYTHING possible to keep their profit margins soaring, whilst at the same time deluding the public and their perception on animal feeds..........

If commercial food was the BEST then tell me WHY do they keep coming back with the 'new and improved' versions......hhhhhmmmmm, also even some commercial food clearly states on it that it has proper meat etc in it or 'how nature intended' is the usual phrase they like to use......hhhmmmmm

The above also exsists in human circles too.......the world is MONEY MAD and totally disregard what REALLY matters.......I firmly beleive that there are already cures for killer illnesses out there but the 'puppeteers' that control the strings are more concerned with making money with the drug companies........VERY sad but VERY true unfortunately!

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Tell me about it labmad, I work in a pet shop and the food reps can't even GIVE their stuff to me for free. They're always trying to get me to feed my dogs on their food - I just laugh.
I do believe that there is a place for commercial dog food - apart from the bin )

There are a lot of people in the world who are dog owners rather than dog lovers. Many can't be bothered to learn, source and prepare a proper diet for their dog - christ there's a fair few can't even feed their kids properly so not much chance for the animals - turkey twizzlers and blue pop anyone? Dog food might be a bit crappy but millions of dogs tick over on it.

BTW the impacted dog owner was pretty experienced and did loads of reading and research - just one of those things - and he still feeds raw to his other dogs.

I've occasionally given my dogs a cuttle fish bone to chew on - cleans teeth and a good source of calcium - not sure it could completely replace the bones in the diet though.
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Old 29-01-2008, 05:09 PM
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Rio has had a few curries and kebabs in his time at mine, more often than not he's stolen them or tipped the bin over and licked the curry tray clean. although he does have sense and left the tomato
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Does anyone know of a supplier of meat for this diet in South Wales? I am seriously considering shifting my GSD and border collie to it if I can get hold of the meat.
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Old 29-01-2008, 05:22 PM
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Does anyone know of a supplier of meat for this diet in South Wales? I am seriously considering shifting my GSD and border collie to it if I can get hold of the meat.
Do you have any of the following in your area - poultry places, where they prepare chicken etc prior it going to be sold on to supermarkets etc, fish manufacturer, again somewhere where they gut, scale and generally prepare fish for fishmongers/supermarkets etc, abbotoirs, a good pace to get fresh, offal, green tripe etc etc depending on what they slaughter, can you get to know any farmers etc who shoot or have people who shoot rabbits for them to clear a field, MUCH cheaper than buying from placs like farm shops etc
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:50 AM
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this week I have 30 crates of beef and breast of lamb available.

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