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Old 10-01-2008, 08:13 PM
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I Don't know if this has been said but,
Its not the dogs fault its the owners, the owner brings the dog up and teaches it whats good and whats wrong.

And leaving a baby in a room on its own with a rocky, shows the parents weren't responsible anyway

yes you can bring a dog up knowing right from wrong but they have to be taught but there is also the added thing of illness if a dog becomes ill they can turn as its their only way of telling you they are in pain or ill
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Old 10-01-2008, 08:42 PM
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av got a 16 week old rottie n i wont leave it wi the kids, wudnt leave any dog wi em, i live in wakefield too where that kid got killed n so many people saying stuff about us having her, alot of people over here thing that all dogs are the same and that all rotties are evil, its al bout how there brought up
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Old 11-01-2008, 12:30 PM
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My wee brother recently rescued a rottweiller/german shepherd cross that was left abandoned in some womans back yard. My wee brother also has a 7 month old baby, so as you can understand the family's a bit dubious about the whole situation but i've been up to see the pup and he already seems to know his place. My wee brother has been doing a good job of socializing the pup with other dogs and young children, including his baby. At this young age the pup will only come near the baby if my brother calls him over and so far there has been no jealousy issues. Now obviously this pup is going to grow up into a large powerful dog that will have the potential to do a lot of damage if it wishes. Now i'm going to be keeping an eye on this dog, making sure its getting plenty of exercise, thats its got enough around him to keep his mind occupied, well fed and getting the correct discipline and obedience training this breed requires to make sure he's a happy dog. Thankfully my brother lives near a lot of open expanses where you can let a dog off the leash and run free without fear of cattle, other dogs to engage with and can burn himself out.

It is heart breaking and sad to learn that a young infant has been killed by what was supposed to be a family pet but when watching the news i noticed that dog seemed to have been kept in a small back yard. I don't know how much exercise or training this dog got but if this dog was confined to this yard for extended periods of time it's going to become bored, frustrated, angry and eventually lash out sooner rather than later and when a rottweiler lashes its going to do some serious damage. Infants and children have no chance and an adult would do well to get away with serious injuries. I truly feel sorry for the family but i also have a lot of sympathy for the dog. I grew up all my life with dogs, as i used to do a lot of hunting when younger. Patterdales, lurchers, springers, jack russels, springers, a pit at one time and a few mongrels were among the dogs we had, amongst them some very vicious breeds but not once did any of our dogs show aggression towards people as they had no need to, they were well worked and knew their place in the pack.

A neighbour also had a rottweiler, ten and a half stone of pure killing machine but this dog was one of the friendliest dogs i ever met. When we were kids the dog would carry us about on his back, let us rest our heads on him when we lying out in the sun on the long summer days. The key to this was the owner always exercised Glynn (dogs name) and socialized him with kids from no age. He also had a thirty by fifteen foot run and numerous activities in his run to keep his mind active.

Suppose the point behind this unbelievably long post is, that sometimes its the dogs fault but nearly all the time its the owners fault. Either through negligence, poor training, some prick trying to be all macho with his big scary dog that they have no control over or just plain ignorance of the breed of dog they have taken on.

Thank f**k thats finished

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Old 11-01-2008, 01:49 PM
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LOL that was a post and half

but would like to say good on your brother lots of respect going out in his direction
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all i will say its the owners not the dog the dog is what you make it !!!
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:35 PM
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all i will say its the owners not the dog the dog is what you make it !!!
Thats so very true

I have a 3 year old husky girl coming to me this evening im fostering her with hope of her staying her if she fits in with my pack

This poor girl has been through hell and all she wants is someone to love her and give her the attention and time she deserves

It really does break my heart to know dogs have to go through this i jumped at the chance to help this girl as her story is so similiar to that of my mallie x boy that i rescued so i understand what she has been through i have spent the last 5 months working on my boy and he has turned out to be a fabulous, loving gentle giant of a dog

So fingers crossed there is hope here for her too
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