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Old 30-12-2007, 04:43 PM
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My mum used to own a few of those yorkies with attitudes. Grumpy little things that liked to growl when i sat on the settee next time them. They never actually bitten though, most of it was for show. I think the difference is, even if they did go to bite, it would have only took a flick on the chin and they would have run off were a rottie or another large breed dog is going to keep shaking its victim until its dead.
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Old 30-12-2007, 05:09 PM
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Its a shame 4 th family but theres no bad dogs only bad owners as far as im concerned!I agree with wat uv all wrote bout th kid bein lft on its own wi th dog n also if it had never shown any sign of doin it b4 y did it suddenly do it now!But if it had never shown aggression b4 then y put it dwn straight away it surely coulda bin rehomed wiout children n bin muzzled in public!I love big dogs n at some point would like a rottie,bullmastiff or rodesian ridgeback not coz they look hard but coz i think theyr stunnin lookin dogs but i would make sure that it was socialised properly n i also dnt think that theres nythin wrong wi playin rough wi em!Iv got a staffie X collie n i play fight wi him but he nos wen 2 stop n calm dwn if he gets 2 rough then th game stops n i blank him but hes not aggressive in ny way hes soft as poo!police dogs r trained 2 b aggressive n yet they can live in a house wi kids n r more safe than most pet dogs as they hav an off switch where as a pet dog thats aggressive doesnt!Sorry 4 such long post!
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Old 30-12-2007, 05:14 PM
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its the people that own these dogs that are the problem not the dogs !! no child should be left alone with any dog not just rotties or pit bulls etc.
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Old 30-12-2007, 05:16 PM
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Well said im a single mum with 4 dogs and my 7yr old NEVER gets left alone with any of my dogs..................i know they wouldnt hurt him but still not the point i wouldnt even consider leaving him alone with them!
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Old 30-12-2007, 05:20 PM
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As for playing rough, yeah its all good when your dog knows that your in charge aka the pack leader, but what I meant was there may be some instances when the pack leader is not there, or the dog is with someone else and possible in different environment, all MAY, not def, have a contributing factor to any undesirable behaviour......not haveing a go at you personnally, but there are people out there that play rough or play the tug games etc with their dogs and rather than the game finishing with the owner taking the tug toy etc away from the dog they instead give into the dog cos their gettin tired etc......THIS in itself empowers the dog from a DOMINANCE perspective and people do not realise this......if dominance is not dealt with and left to fester, then it may well turn into aggression..........so yes I agree its ALL down to owners in the upbringing and guidance they give to there pooches (nearly forgot to add this bit)

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Its a shame 4 th family but theres no bad dogs only bad owners as far as im concerned!I agree with wat uv all wrote bout th kid bein lft on its own wi th dog n also if it had never shown any sign of doin it b4 y did it suddenly do it now!But if it had never shown aggression b4 then y put it dwn straight away it surely coulda bin rehomed wiout children n bin muzzled in public!I love big dogs n at some point would like a rottie,bullmastiff or rodesian ridgeback not coz they look hard but coz i think theyr stunnin lookin dogs but i would make sure that it was socialised properly n i also dnt think that theres nythin wrong wi playin rough wi em!Iv got a staffie X collie n i play fight wi him but he nos wen 2 stop n calm dwn if he gets 2 rough then th game stops n i blank him but hes not aggressive in ny way hes soft as poo!police dogs r trained 2 b aggressive n yet they can live in a house wi kids n r more safe than most pet dogs as they hav an off switch where as a pet dog thats aggressive doesnt!Sorry 4 such long post!
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Old 30-12-2007, 05:24 PM
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Extremely sad and tragic case yet again.......what I also get annoyed with is the law itself.....if a dog attacks a human, it's put down, but when a dig attacks another dog the law does nothing, I'm not saying I want dogs putting down, far from it....but it is a sad fact the the powers that be STILL do not see animals on the terms as they would a human life ......
The fact is an animal is just that and shouldn't even be considered near that of a human life.

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I don't agree with that comment either. My Nan used to keep 3 labradors, all were kept the same, fed the same, slept together and my Nan showed no particular dog any favouritism. Honey and Mikey were well mannered and always submissive but Sam was a loose cannon and would bite and snap just because he could.
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Old 30-12-2007, 05:30 PM
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Once a dog has shown marked agression it is not safe. Having said that, the dog was kept outside all the time and this will have the same effect on it's temperament as a dog kept solely for guarding a scrap yard or farm. I don't think young kids should ever be left in a situation where this kind of tragedy can occur. Any dog is capable of biting, but if it is one of the tenacious guarding breeds, the consequences can be catastrophic and tragic.
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Old 30-12-2007, 05:32 PM
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I would never leave a child alone with a dog. I am a bit wary of a rottweiler when I walk past them, so much so I might move away as much as possible when I have to go past. Its different with small breed dogs as they cant get me to the ground and kill me. Still I wouldnt leave my son in a room with dogs of any size. They all have the potential to do damage.

I dont think I would ever own a large breed dog. Not something that could pull me over just when on a walk anyway!

Its wrong that the 2 children were left alone downstairs, especially with a dog around the place.
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Old 30-12-2007, 05:49 PM
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The fact is an animal is just that and shouldn't even be considered near that of a human life.



I don't agree with that comment either. My Nan used to keep 3 labradors, all were kept the same, fed the same, slept together and my Nan showed no particular dog any favouritism. Honey and Mikey were well mannered and always submissive but Sam was a loose cannon and would bite and snap just because he could.
So your telling me that if your out walking your dog and it gets attatcked by another dog badly then you would not be as worried about it as you would your own flesh and blood.......yeah I agree they are animals and we should not humanise but long gone I'd hoped when people view their dog as ' oh it's only the dog'..............

As for the lab who bit because 'it could'.....nah mate, dogs don't think like that, it bites for a reason......only you or the family will know the reason unless you fail to read the signs mate

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Old 30-12-2007, 05:52 PM
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all of these dog attacks i've been seeing on the news for the last few years....what a waste.......but the aggressive dog has to be put down...that's automatic here. the aspca takes care of that. besides, if they didn't, the victim's family would and that would be even worse. you can't trust any dog that has shown unprovoked aggression. just what i feel.
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