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Personally I don't think Redfoots should be given fruits any more than any other tortoise.
I also suggest staying away from overly ripenend fruit and fruits high in moisture content. All of the fiberous fruits and berries are fair game. Quote:
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Ed I totally disagree and I would advise reading this to the OP
Feeding Red-foot and Yellow-foot tortoises Geochelone carbonaria and G. denticulata Last edited by littlefoot; 10-03-2008 at 05:28 PM.. |
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There are two main references that most writers cite when reporting on Red Foots... Peter Prichards, Turtles of Venezuela and a Thesis by D. Moskovits, The Behavior and Ecology of the Two Amazonian Tortoises... The problem with the thesis is that the author set out to prove that fruit is a major source of the tortoises diet... What caught my attention was when she listed the plants she listed Genera... not specific... when she listed fruit she listed species... This gives me an indication of bias. It makes no sense that fruit is going to be available except for seasonally. I spoke with a few people in the range countries... fruit is not commonly available in most of the range countries of the RF. P. Prichards reference is probably the best natural history account available right now. H. Vetter is comming out with a book similar to the Leopard and Hermann's book. I would trust what he might have to say on the topic. So... You can disagree but it would be nice for you to provide a little information as to why you disagree. It's amazing how much effect dogma has on the hobby of tortoise keeping. |
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IMO this is not a topic worth aruments in the wild a tortoise would eat fruit if it was available so why not give it them? as long as they are balanced between fruit and the herbs and greens they need the tortoise will be healthy so why argue about it?
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No argument here.
I'm just trying to stress the point that Red Foots do not 'need' any more fruit... or protein... than any other tortoise. The majority of their diet is plant material (not fruit) and the other stuff should be as proportional as for any other tortoise. This swings both ways... other tortoises probably encounter as much fruits and berries as most of the RF population. |
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My preference for ripe fruit is based on what a redfoot might encounter on his travels. The fruit he may find will have had to fall to the ground if it was on a bush or tree. As fruit doesn't fall from trees till it is very ripe (or windy) then they will encounter fully ripe fruits. The fruit may have also been sitting around for a bit before the tortoise gets to it.
They also seem attracted by smell and ripe fruit smells more so is easier to find and also easier to get your beak into! In the UK, due to transport issues and spoilage, the supermarkets like to sell us under ripe fruit so we have the luxury to 'ripen at home' as it says on the packet. Most of the fruit we can buy is really rather hard and you'd want to keep it a few days before eating it yourself! |
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That is very true.
How often do you think RFs will encounter any fruit in the wild if you consider how many wild trees fruit... how often they fruit? As a provider... how often do you offer fruit and how much? Chances are they are fed fruit way too often in captivity so if you are going to offer fruit I would think it would make sense to offer low sugar, low moisture content to be safe... to much of any one item is not really good... imho. Quote:
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