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Old 11-03-2008, 11:23 PM
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A normal 40-60 bulb. Just a standard bulb. Along with the UV tube of course.
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:53 AM
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Exactly, just go to any DIY store, supermarket, hardware store, and buy an ordinary R63 or R80 reflector lamp, Wickes do a pack of 3 for £1.49.

TBH the Stingray filters are about the most useless of all the internal filters, a triumph of design over function! You say your water quality is good, how do you know that? Have you tested it or are you just relying on it looking clean?

King British isn't the greatest turt food around either, it has far to many dried shrimp which are OK as an occasional treat, but shouldn't be fed daily. T-Rex and ZooMed turt foods are much better, supplemented with small quantities of raw lean meat, freshwater fish, raw prawns, snails etc..., and unlimited access to green veg.

The problem may just be that he doesn't recognise what you're feeding him as food, it can take a while to get some turts eating properly if the diet you offer them is different to what they've been used to. The trick is to find something they will eat, and gradually introduce the food you want them to eat at the same time, you may need to disguise pellets initially by soaking them in tuna oil or meat juice to make them more appealing.

2 weeks without food isn't really that long and there's no reason to panic just yet, they can go a lot longer than that, and turts will very rarely starve themselves to death if there's something edible on offer. You just have to persist, get their habitat right and offer a range of foods, sooner or later it should start eating again.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:22 AM
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When we got ours they would refuse anything other than King British and had done so consistently at their previous home. We found that once we sorted out heating and lighting they got far more adventurous - now taking reptomin, T-Rex, gammarus, white fish, worms, bloodworm sachets, and even the occasional bit of green stuff.
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Old 12-03-2008, 02:24 PM
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i have been going on the fact the water looked clean rather then testing it. I'm going to look into buying an external filter from now on, any recommendations would be appreciated. I've been feeding them King british for a year and a half now so will try them on something differnt.

I have to say I'm appaled at the information the pet shop gave me when i brought them. They sold me the smallest tank possible, told me i only needed the uv tube, sold me the smallest stingray water filter and told me to feed them king british for the first year, and then cooked chicken afterwards. I have since upgraded the tank size using the calculations brought the biggest filter, given them cuttle fish, and now plan to get heat lamp and new filter.

Thanks for everyones help and advice. I love these two to death and would hate anything to happen to them, and want to look after them the best i can.
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Old 12-03-2008, 02:53 PM
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I don't like to put down shops, but unfortunately where turts are concerned they consistently give the very worst advice possible, with very few exceptions!

Have a look at the Eheim Classic range of filters from Pet Supplies, Pet Food, and Pet Products on Sale Now at zooplus.co.uk, excellent quality, simple and reliable filters, ideal for turts and good value for money. Remember you need one rated for at least twice the water volume, allowing for tank upgrades.

I usually recommend the 2217 which is rated for 600 litre aquaria, and is good therefore for turt tanks from 200-300 litres. It's a good mid-size filter for less than £60 delivered, and when you eventually upgrade to a tank bigger than 300 litres you can just add a second filter.
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