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01-04-2008, 03:03 PM
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wanting to sell my tunisians advice please
hi i have decided for the best i am going to have to sell my tunisians,only peoblem is i dont have the papers for them i contacted defra via email and they said that i do not need papers to own one just to breed them?
would it be illegal if i sold them on? all advice needed please,they are in a viv at the minute the 3 of them and its not fair on them i just dont have the cash to build a table at present , ne one intrested pm me or advice wanted please 
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01-04-2008, 03:09 PM
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It would be illegal to sell any tortoise that requires papers if you don't have the papers.
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01-04-2008, 03:59 PM
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You need to get papers for them in order to sell them and they can't just be the 'breeding certs' which are sometimes supplied to people. If they are over 100mm they will need to be chipped first. If you are unable to obtain the correct certs rehoming will be the only way forward.
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01-04-2008, 04:23 PM
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Yes im afraid you can only sell if you have paper.
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01-04-2008, 05:25 PM
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hi guys thanks for that ,will have to get certs,how long does it take and how much do they cost also
i have read some were that i may get papers but may not be able to sell them on?
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01-04-2008, 05:28 PM
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It takes as long as it takes <g> Sometimes they do a pretty quick turn around and they are back in a couple of weeks, but I have heard of people waiting months. I don't think charges have been brought in yet, although they have been mentioned for the future at something like £10 per tortoise being certified.
The cert that does not allow you to sell on is the 'breeders' cert I reffered too. You would have to check with DEFRA on which cert they will supply to you in your circumstance.
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01-04-2008, 06:40 PM
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If they are in unsuitable housing, I would re-home them ASAP.
Contact Tamie at the tortoise trust, she is excellent and will be able to find a perfect home  tamie.milne@btinternet.com
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02-04-2008, 03:14 PM
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i have put them in my sons shed for now been doing the heat all day they are fine in there for now untill i sort papers out. thanks for the info and help once again
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