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Old 04-04-2008, 03:28 PM
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It depends...

Again... I don't see why not under the proper conditions. Many different reptiles share tortoise burrows the world over.

After all doesn't the tortoise purists the world over try and mimic nature as much as possible?

It should be as large an enclosure as possible... they should have different needs in order to keep them biologicly seperated such as an Iguana and a redfoot... that's an acceptable mix.

A Night anole and a Russian... That's stretching it a bit and it is an extreme mix but it could work.

I wouldn't do it but don't see anything inherently wrong with it.

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Can you keep Lizards with Tortoises over the past few days ive been to a few places and saw lizards with tortoises like

Horsfield Tortoises with Night Anoles
Some of tortoises With a skink
and a few others so is it ok to do such thing ?
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You've missed the fundamental problem in this particular situation EJ.

What shop have you ever seen where this is done in a sensible or even feasible way?

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I haven't seen the shop in questiong so I can't say to that point but I did answer the fundemental question.

Can a lizard be kept with a tortoise... depends.

To answer your question... There was a very famous shop in Manhatten, NY in the late 80s which set up habitats with mixed spicies... it was called Small Worlds. They pulled it off quite successfully. It was one of the first shops to breed Jacksons Cameleons in captivity and keep Dwarf Cameleons alive for more than a few years.

It was done feasably and sensibly.


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You've missed the fundamental problem in this particular situation EJ.

What shop have you ever seen where this is done in a sensible or even feasible way?

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Of course its not!!!
Chill Winston, they were just asking, as is the general idea of the forum.
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It depends...

Again... I don't see why not under the proper conditions. Many different reptiles share tortoise burrows the world over.

After all doesn't the tortoise purists the world over try and mimic nature as much as possible?

It should be as large an enclosure as possible... they should have different needs in order to keep them biologicly seperated such as an Iguana and a redfoot... that's an acceptable mix.

A Night anole and a Russian... That's stretching it a bit and it is an extreme mix but it could work.

I wouldn't do it but don't see anything inherently wrong with it.
This is a good debating topic, I see no reason why some torts can not mix with some lizards as they do in the wild but under some conditions.

The amount of room must be huge and I am talking about zoo like enclosures.

The species should be naturally from the same geographical area.

Tortoise mixing is a no no because except for the red and yellow foots tortoises don't overlap their geographical area. This makes sense but if you have a red foot with a lizard from the amazon in a huge area would that be OK ? I mean a red foot would come across a lizard in the wild would not it ?

Seeing cold blood the gopher tortoise was sharing its tunnel but I don't recommend anybody buying a rattle snake though!
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If reptiles generally mix why do they have to be from the same geographical area.

I could see you saying that you prefer to keep locality matched animals together but there is no reason to do so except for the mental perception part.

I keep Aldabras and Sulcatas together... no problems at all... there is a racial problem to were they don't normally like to comingle and there is the occasional gang fight but I can usually squash this with a big bowl of Mazuri.

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This is a good debating topic, I see no reason why some torts can not mix with some lizards as they do in the wild but under some conditions.

The amount of room must be huge and I am talking about zoo like enclosures.

The species should be naturally from the same geographical area.

Tortoise mixing is a no no because except for the red and yellow foots tortoises don't overlap their geographical area. This makes sense but if you have a red foot with a lizard from the amazon in a huge area would that be OK ? I mean a red foot would come across a lizard in the wild would not it ?

Seeing cold blood the gopher tortoise was sharing its tunnel but I don't recommend anybody buying a rattle snake though!
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If reptiles generally mix why do they have to be from the same geographical area.
You do not think there are any disease risks ?
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Among captive born and raised animals?... no.
Among properly quarentened and treated animals?... minimal... no more so than two of the same species in a similar situation.

There are always disease risk and it is not always species specific or exclusive.

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Among captive born and raised animals?... no.
Among properly quarentened and treated animals?... minimal... no more so than two of the same species in a similar situation.

There are always disease risk and it is not always species specific or exclusive.

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Could I mix a captive bred leopard with a captive bred sulcata ?
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Old 04-04-2008, 06:29 PM
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Why not? They're your tortoises... with similar needs. I'm trying to find an agressive enough leopard to breed with a sulcata... one day.

They are cool looking animals... A leopard spotted Sulcata.

For the most part I keep my leopards as a single group and I keep my Sulcatas with the Aldabs which are too small.

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