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Old 27-04-2008, 11:53 AM
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Can anyone tell me what turtle this is please?


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No where near being an expert on this, but I would say a north american wood turtle?
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No where near being an expert on this, but I would say a north american wood turtle?
No its not that... but does look like a wood turtle.... It was found in central france
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Bearing in mind where it was found I'd say it's most likely a European Pond Turtle, they are found across most of Europe and there are quite a few regional colour variations.
The overall shape, and the dark almost black skin with yellow spots are quite typical.
If you do a Google Image search for Emys orbicularis you'll find lots of photos, many of which look just like this one.
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Thats what I thought but none have the red eyes????
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Yes that was my only reservation! You see lots of variations in carapace patterning, and in skin patterning too, but I don't think I've seen one with that eye colouring before.
But as I said bearing in mind where it was found, and assuming it's not an escaped pet, then there's not a lot else it could be really. There aren't many European turt species to choose from, and in all other respects it does look very much like a European Pondie.
Is this one of yours or were the photos sent to you? Can you get any more pix, of the plastron and the back end in particular?
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wood turtle? possibly????
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This might sound totally nuts but it looks like a cross between a European Pond turtle and a North American Box turtle...

Was it a wild caught turtle? Was it caught in a residential area or an area close to a city or town?

After a little reading... it's most likely a European Pond turtle. If you can get your hands on H. Vetters book on Turtles of the World you will see the shape and color is highly variable. There are a few examples of red eyed Pond turtles.


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its a luvly turtle wish i had it
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Yes, it is an Emys orbicularis. There is a lot of regional variation in these. Fritz did a lot of work on this. There's also a good paper online. This paper also has the info on Fritz's publications in the bibliography.

http://jfas.ege.edu.tr/pdf/18_Ayaz_21_3-4_2004.pdf

I've seen these myself in France, Italy, Spain and Turkey... even the shell ground colour can vary from a light brown to jet black. I also bred a few some years ago. Very nice turtles.

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