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Old 29-04-2008, 09:57 PM
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hey guys, have been hearing alot lately about different wormers for different animals and on some of the other groups peoples opinions differ VASTLY! Now, i use panacur every year in the spring and offer pumpkin in the autumn but i just wondered what everybody else used?? and given the amount of newbies on the group, i though it would be good to raise the issue of worming and the Many Many different types of parasites and treatments!

so, in your opinion, what is the best "allround" wormer to treat, worms, protozoans and flagellates? what dosage do you use and at what frequency/intervals?
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hey guys, have been hearing alot lately about different wormers for different animals and on some of the other groups peoples opinions differ VASTLY! Now, i use panacur every year in the spring and offer pumpkin in the autumn but i just wondered what everybody else used?? and given the amount of newbies on the group, i though it would be good to raise the issue of worming and the Many Many different types of parasites and treatments!

so, in your opinion, what is the best "allround" wormer to treat, worms, protozoans and flagellates? what dosage do you use and at what frequency/intervals?

wormers do not treat flagellates, I use panacur 10% for big torts 2.5% for small, I stomach tube. 10 % .75 per kilo and 2.5 % 3 ml per kilo

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Old 29-04-2008, 10:15 PM
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Surely wormers only treat endoparasites? Protozoans are flegellates and amoebas which are are treated differently... aren't they?

I'm getting someone experienced to show me exactly what to do the first time... I'm not looking forward to learning how to stomach tube

Worming dogs is soooo much easier
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I like to start stuff... Ivermectin... that's what you are looking for... It covers all that... but... it can kill you tortoise if not administered very precisely.

The bottom line... Flagyl, Baytril, Panecur.... that will get them all relatively safely.

If you were to use only 'one'... Flagyl and Panecure.

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hey guys, have been hearing alot lately about different wormers for different animals and on some of the other groups peoples opinions differ VASTLY! Now, i use panacur every year in the spring and offer pumpkin in the autumn but i just wondered what everybody else used?? and given the amount of newbies on the group, i though it would be good to raise the issue of worming and the Many Many different types of parasites and treatments!

so, in your opinion, what is the best "allround" wormer to treat, worms, protozoans and flagellates? what dosage do you use and at what frequency/intervals?
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Old 29-04-2008, 10:51 PM
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quite easy when you get to do it a few times, the big torts i have are a different matter especially trying to get their jaws open. good thing about reptiles is that the wind pipe is in front of the tongue so is well out of the way
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I like to start stuff... Ivermectin... that's what you are looking for... It covers all that... but... it can kill you tortoise if not administered very precisely.

The bottom line... Flagyl, Baytril, Panecur.... that will get them all relatively safely.

If you were to use only 'one'... Flagyl and Panecure.

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ivermectin surely will kill your tort, wont it ?
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It will not... BUT... the dosage is very... extremely... precise. and some species are more sensitive to the drug than others.

It's easier to say... don't use it...

There's a very specific and broad range to this post.

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i found it easier to tube the med tortoises, hardly any fuss, then the leopards put up a HUGE resistance. and a 12 inch leopard that does not want to put its head out DOES NOT put its head out!!

i have been looking into parasitology, its a very interesting but complex area. i would love to learn more, maybe do a few science modules to top up my degree but its very difficult to find any uni's that do it.

I became more intersted when one of my royal python rescues (we believe WC or W/F) was diagnosed with advanced coccidia. she had to be PTS and i had never heard of coccidia, just the more common types like crypto and worms. and the vets had never informed me of the possibility of a false negative either so i am deffinately trying to improve my knolwedge and worming routines.
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What's really interesting is that coccidia is never mentioned in chelonians.

As to your leopard... you have to gain its trust.

Aldabs... no way. The only tortoise I've kept where this could not be accomplished... give me time.

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i found it easier to tube the med tortoises, hardly any fuss, then the leopards put up a HUGE resistance. and a 12 inch leopard that does not want to put its head out DOES NOT put its head out!!

i have been looking into parasitology, its a very interesting but complex area. i would love to learn more, maybe do a few science modules to top up my degree but its very difficult to find any uni's that do it.

I became more intersted when one of my royal python rescues (we believe WC or W/F) was diagnosed with advanced coccidia. she had to be PTS and i had never heard of coccidia, just the more common types like crypto and worms. and the vets had never informed me of the possibility of a false negative either so i am deffinately trying to improve my knolwedge and worming routines.
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i found it easier to tube the med tortoises, hardly any fuss, then the leopards put up a HUGE resistance. and a 12 inch leopard that does not want to put its head out DOES NOT put its head out!!

i have been looking into parasitology, its a very interesting but complex area. i would love to learn more, maybe do a few science modules to top up my degree but its very difficult to find any uni's that do it.

I became more intersted when one of my royal python rescues (we believe WC or W/F) was diagnosed with advanced coccidia. she had to be PTS and i had never heard of coccidia, just the more common types like crypto and worms. and the vets had never informed me of the possibility of a false negative either so i am deffinately trying to improve my knolwedge and worming routines.

I have delt with the problem but only when the animals life is in danger I can PM you if you like. I think it is best not to post it.
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