can i just ask...i have 2 spurs, they have been id'd as a jordainian and an ibera but on their certificates it just says Testudo. graeca sooooo.....theoretically if you bred 2 torts which just said T.g on the certs then im assuming the hatchlings certs would just say the same thing...T.g

certs dont state sub species...is that correct?????

ya thats correct..#
defra dont include sub species