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Old 12-06-2008, 08:09 PM
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Just wondering if anyone has come across this product which I've just seen advertised. I've removed the name of the company which is marketing it.
The full advertisement is shown below. Is this "flubendazole" just another name for fenbendazole, the active ingredient in Panacur, or is it something new and revolutionary?
The spelling mistakes in the ad are the advertisers, not mine.





"new…
Tortoise…wormer plus.
Tortoise wormer, tick and parasite killer.
The secret to a successful hibernation, and general health for your tortoise just launched is tortoise….wormer plus. Manufactured by Kusuri, and made exclusively for .............. who is the main distributor for this product. It will help keep your valued tortoise in tip top condition. For the first time ever, your pet tortoise can be wormed at home with out taking them away to worm them. This is less stressful for the animal, easier and less expensive than any other way of treating in the past. Tortoise wormer plus is a flubendazole based medication for use against intestinal helminthic worms and external ticks, to keep your tortoise in tip top condition and health. Worms are a fact of life for tortoises which in the past has been responsible for many failed hibernations, every tortoise can carry its own complement of parasitic worms. When in good condition and health, these worms are not a problem. But as soon as the tortoise is stressed or hibernating, its natural immunity is compromised and internal parasites can take a hold. This product will control tapeworms and other helminths, and help to ensure a successful hibernation. It is advisable to use this product again when any tortoise is waking from hibernation to help them recover and pick up strength quickly after a long sleep. Tropical tortoises need only be wormed 2-4 times a year, where as with hibernating species, it is advisable to worm before hibernation and again upon waking from a long hibernation period for safe recovery. For maximum protection, use every three months, the same as you would treat a cat or dog.

EASY TO USE.
Shake the contents of the sachet well, measure out the correct dosage for each tortoise to be treated. This will need to be sprinkled over enough food for one animal, per meal, per day. If you are treating more than one animal at a time, they will need to be separated while being wormed and treated with this product. This can be repeated if necessary for up to 4 days with out any ill effect. It is possible to add this treatment to a luke warm water bath at the dose of one level scoopful (supplied) per two litres of luke warm water, and mix well. If possible sit the tortoise in the solution so it can lift its head above the water level for 20 minutes. Please note some tortoises may keep their head under the water for well over five to ten minutes at a time. This is normal and they are merely just drinking, and not drowning as long as the water level is half way up the body/shell of the animal and they can lift their head up comfortably above the water level.
Dosage: Use 0.3g, or one level 0.5 ml scoop (included) per 2 litres of luke warm bathing water, or sprinkle over enough food for one meal per animal to be treated. It is a good idea to gently mist warm water over any food to be treated, to make the powdered medication 'stick' to the food and be consumed by the tortoise being treated. This is the best way of administering this treatment. This treatment can be safely re-dosed again if a second treatment is necessary in heavy infestations.

Tortoise…wormer plus retails at just £8.99 a 5g pack which will treat several tortoises. It also has an extra ingredient which kill ticks.

This veterinary Medicine is marketed in accordance with the small animal exemption scheme. Manufacturing licence number: SAM002
Safety phrases:s36-37
Risk Phrases R20-22"

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sorry to keep stressing this, but nobody should treat ananimal until they know what they are treating. a fecal sample is a MUST before giving an animal any drugs. and one wormer will not treat all parasites, just give the owner a false sense of security. they will think there animal is free of parasites and the little buggers are free to multiply and do damage.


to be honest i would be very carefull. panacur ( febendazole) is one of the safest treatments available and as long as its used according to the instructions, its great. that is used to treat what we all think of as true "worms". and the 10% paste is a doddle to measure out and administer on food, much easier than making any solutions up. have you actually tried this?? where did you hear about it??
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Old 13-06-2008, 07:30 AM
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sorry to keep stressing this, but nobody should treat ananimal until they know what they are treating. a fecal sample is a MUST before giving an animal any drugs. and one wormer will not treat all parasites, just give the owner a false sense of security. they will think there animal is free of parasites and the little buggers are free to multiply and do damage.


to be honest i would be very carefull. panacur ( febendazole) is one of the safest treatments available and as long as its used according to the instructions, its great. that is used to treat what we all think of as true "worms". and the 10% paste is a doddle to measure out and administer on food, much easier than making any solutions up. have you actually tried this?? where did you hear about it??

I'm not advocating the use of this, or any other drug, merely asking if anyone knew anything about it.
I worm my tortoises, as and when necessary.
As for panacur being a "doddle" to use, this drug, as with others is potentially dangerous, if misused or administered unneccessarily.
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