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22-07-2008, 10:23 AM
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22-07-2008, 01:38 PM
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When I say similar I mean they are almost identical.
The new T-Rex tortoise diet is identical to the diet I'm most familiar with. I also fail to see your point... Ed Quote:
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22-07-2008, 04:24 PM
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Sorry but two products being similar just doesnt cut it in my book. Products are either the same or not. For example: I sell skincare products and we have ranges of products for different skin types but I dont go around saying 'oh yeah use the combi one it will do the same job as the normal one' because it wont, they are different. |
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22-07-2008, 05:11 PM
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One more time... I do use T-Rex diets but I use more Mazuri.
Also... I know many other people who do use it and have used the T-Rex diets for years. I am not going to endorse or recommend a product that I'm not totally comfortable with. I take more caution when making a recommendation than I take with my own animals. I could care less if you use it or not or whether it cuts it in your book or not. I think that the keepers who use the product are better off for it. I have the evidence to support the benefits of it's use. If you have a difference of opinion or some evidence to back up your claims... which I really haven't seen any... please present it here. Otherwise... please keep the misdirection in check. Ed Quote:
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22-07-2008, 05:50 PM
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Personally I don't use dry tortoise food. I don't use supermarket bought veg (too high in phosphate) and I dont use cooked veg. I use fresh garden grown weeds and flowers as close to the tortoises natural diet as possible. Whether that makes me a bad person or not is debatable.
The reason you shouldn't use oils (olive/veg/sunflower/castrol gtx..) on the shell is that it creates the perfect environment for the growth of anaerobic bacteria, which is type of bacteria most commonly associated with shell rot. The best regular calcium to use is Calcium carbonate, either in BP powder form from the chemist or perhaps impure limestone. Cuttlefish bone (Calcium phosphate) while perhaps.. useful for keeping the beak growth in check, is far from an ideal calcium source as the phosphate blocks the absorption of calcium; which is why I don't feed commercially grown 'supermarket' greens. |
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22-07-2008, 06:04 PM
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You dont care....yeah thats obvious. But you dont like it when we suggest to people that dried tortoise foods arent always the best. You have to start spouting on that they are and its quite obvious that you regard other peoples views as less valid than your own and basically thats what I and alot of other people on here dont like. Ive never felt the need to back up my thoughts with evidence when there are plenty of people who will agree with my views anyway. |
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22-07-2008, 06:06 PM
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Why would your particular diet choice make you a bad person or not?
As to the oil on the shell... That is the best and most logical explanation I've ever seen as to why you shouldn't oil a shell. There is no other reason that I could think of. It is odd that the vet suggested this though. Calcium carbonate is the easiest and most accessable... Calcium glauconate... is the best as far as geting calcium into the animal. (the spelling could be wrong) Cuttle fish bone is calcium carbonate. Bone meal is calcium phosphate... crushed bone... Phosphorous is needed in the ballance of calcium... it's an integral part of that cycle and control Ed Quote:
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22-07-2008, 06:13 PM
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I seem to remember a post about pushy people...
I'm always game though... I do... do a search on mazuri on this list. Again... typical of misdirection... I don't care about your point of view (at this point). I think a green based diet is the way to go... IF you can offer the variety that is necessary to cover all the nutritional needs of the animal... not an easy task. Some formulated diets make the task of providing all the nutritional needs for a tortoise that much easier. I'm not saying one is better than another overall. Your last point... not worth addressing. Ed Quote:
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22-07-2008, 07:22 PM
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Well, I think we all know who thinks what about what diet now and as Kristy has had a lot of her questions answered I'm going to close this now.
Kristy, if there's anything else you need help with please start a new thread... they don't all end up in huge debates!
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