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Old 16-09-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Feeding a baby Sulcata Tortoise

From the research I've done so far, I gather that they need a whole lot of roughage i.e. grasses / hay and a small amount of greens and weeds, preferably stuff nabbed out of my garden like dandy lions.

I already grow things like
nasturtiums for my iguana, so I'm sure I'll manage a few more different varieties of plants and weeds for a tortoise. I hear they like stuff like geraniums, hibiscus, and prickly pear cactus pads.

But I'm a bit confused about the roughage part. Sulcata Station website, Sulcata Station - Basic Diet Info for sulcata tortoises recommends a whole list of grasses, which they reckon should make up the bulk of the Sulcata's diet.
  • Buffalo grass (Buchloe dactyloides)
  • Bermuda grass (Cynodon dactylon)
  • Orchardgrass (Dactylis glomerata)
  • Big Bluestem (Andropogon gerardii)
  • Little Bluestem (Andropogon scoparious)
  • Western wheatgrass (Agropyron smithii)
  • Blue Grama (Bouteloua gracilis)
  • Arizona Fescue (Festuca arizonica)
  • Lawn Fescue (Festuca arundinacea)
  • Sheep Fescue (Festuca ovina)
  • Creeping Red Fescue (Festuca rubra)
I have no idea what any of this is, so my intention is to go to my local garden center and see if they have any of this stuff in their ornamental grass section. I'm not all that optimistic because the guys who recommended this stuff are in America and might have different plants available to them. Of course the other option is to just order seeds off the internet, but the seeds are going to take a while to grow.

So, my question is to those of you who already have Sulcata tortoises or know a bit about them: What do you do about the grass bit? Do you feed hay, raid your lawn or grow your own? Any suggestions for food resources?

I've read a few heated debates on this forum about Sulcata tortoises. Just helpful advice on feeding and food resources would be lovely, thank you.
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Old 16-09-2007, 02:13 PM
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I know a few sully owners.........I'll mail them and ask which grasses are readily available, but I'm sure Redigrass and Timothy Hay are fine (they are staples for Leopards which are tropical too). You can buy Redigrass in bales like hemp for a similar price (around £10). If you ring your local pet supplies they should be able to order it in for you........Timothy Hay is pretty easy to come by, any pet shop should stock it.

The debates about Sulcata's are mainly centred around pet shops not making people aware of how big they grow (thus having to be re-homed when they start getting really big). Let's be honest, not many people can provide the right envirnoment for them, if you can that's fair enough, good luck to you.
You've obviously done your research, Sulcata Station is the best sully advice and it opens your eyes to what is in store.

I'll post any more info I get off UK Sulcata owners as soon as I get it

Hope this helps
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Old 16-09-2007, 02:58 PM
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Hi Phoebe. That's really helpful, thank you.

I've been told about the Timothy Hay and wondered if it was any good.

By Redigrass, do you mean like the Spillers Readigrass? If so, it looks pretty good. Similar analysis values to Timothy Hay, though it has slightly more Protein.

All very interesting!
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Old 16-09-2007, 03:22 PM
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I know a few sully owners.........I'll mail them and ask which grasses are readily available, but I'm sure Redigrass and Timothy Hay are fine (they are staples for Leopards which are tropical too). You can buy Redigrass in bales like hemp for a similar price (around £10). If you ring your local pet supplies they should be able to order it in for you........Timothy Hay is pretty easy to come by, any pet shop should stock it.

The debates about Sulcata's are mainly centred around pet shops not making people aware of how big they grow (thus having to be re-homed when they start getting really big). Let's be honest, not many people can provide the right envirnoment for them, if you can that's fair enough, good luck to you.
You've obviously done your research, Sulcata Station is the best sully advice and it opens your eyes to what is in store.

I'll post any more info I get off UK Sulcata owners as soon as I get it

Hope this helps
Lets face it, they only get 2.5ft-3ft which isnt absolutly humungus. They only need an medium size garden, but can burrow large tunnels, so be carefull.
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Old 16-09-2007, 04:28 PM
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see when i first started researching sullys i thought 2.5 ft that's not that big/but trust me it's huge! their weight alone makes visits to the vet a nightmare.

Lady who owned my old stable yard took in a sub adult n even that was huge.. As for they only need a medium sized garden.that's incorrect also. Sullys walk miles a day in the wild, and idealy need acres of land, and a heated shed/stable to warm up n for over wintering. 2.5 ft sounds small until u take all other fators into account.

n yes they are cracking diggers like most tortoises!

If you've got the room n facilities go for it Carlie.. they're a truly rewarding species when kept properly.


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Old 16-09-2007, 07:38 PM
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Hi Phoebe. That's really helpful, thank you.

I've been told about the Timothy Hay and wondered if it was any good.

By Redigrass, do you mean like the Spillers Readigrass? If so, it looks pretty good. Similar analysis values to Timothy Hay, though it has slightly more Protein.

All very interesting!
I sell fibre mixes and timothy grass seed on ebay if thats any good to you.


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Thanks, Sarah.

Now I've just got to find somewhere to grow all this stuff. Need a small holding. :/
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Ok, here is a list of foods that would be suitable for a sulcata.

They need to have 70% grasses and 30% essential weeds and flowers and when the weather is warm enough they should be allowed to graze freely. When they can't meadow, timothy and orchard hay are all suitable alternatives. Mix this with essential weeds such as dandelion leaves and flowers, plantain (narrow and broad leaf), chickweed and clover. They can also eat :-

Thistle
Hibiscus
Mulberry leaves
Tradescantia
Opuntia pads and fruit
Echeveria
Abutilon
Kalanchoe
Mimula
Petunia
Viola
Sowthistle
Endive
Egave

Although the fruit of the opuntia is very good for them (full of calcium) other fruits should be avoided or this will upset their guts (fruit would rarely be consumed in the wild)

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