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please give me some ideas on how to get my leopard tortoise to start eating for me
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Can I just correct the impression given in this thread that alcohol-based 'sanitiser' gels or liquids are an adequate method to present cross infection? They are not. They should absolutely NOT be relied on as the main or only defence. They are a secondary measure only. They do not work if your hands are even slightly dirty, and you need a minimum 30 second all-over exposure. Even then, they are of limited value against many pathogens encountered in tortoises and they offer practically no residual activity. A much, much better option is to first wash hands in soap and water, and follow up with not an alcohol-based gel, but one based on benzalkonium chloride. These are much more effective. They are also kinder to skin and are safer (they're non-flammable - an issue around heaters/lights). You can get it under various brands, including as 'Wipeout 4'.
Andy Highfield www.tortoisetrust.org |
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Thanks for that Andy....I sure neber realised that my gel wasnt worth its salt...so to speak.
What about F10? Will get soem Wipeout for the new tort room after xmas....which is when it is finished... |
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F10 is based on quaternary ammonia and a Biguanidine compound, Polyhexanide, I believe.
It's kill time for some of the nastier pathogens that might be encountered in chelonia is very slow (30 minutes+ for some viruses, and 15 minutes+ for some fungi). For environmental disinfection something like Virkon-S is substantially more potent. Good old bleach, used properly, is also very effective (not on hands, obviously). For hands, soap and water and benzalkonium chloride is the best route. Andy Highfield www.tortoisetrust.org |
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I am so glad this has been pointed out as I have seen so many people use alcohol based gels as though they somehow magically make everything OK. |
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Hi there,
Would just like to say hand sanitizer lotions should be used as a first protection. BUT before handling other pets exspecially torts you must wash your hands with hot soapy water. And dry with paper towels which can be then binned! Dylan ![]() |
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