Originally Posted by Katiexx

Have you ever personally visited coast to coast? I'm guessing not based on where you live.

Since i moved up here i've visited, and their advice has been top notch. Yes their display tortoises for sale are in vivs, the smaller ones. the larger are in huge enclosures. But in a pet shop environment its hard to maintain tortoise tables.

When i was in there i checked the food the various species were fed on and the substrate etc. And trust me everything was spot on.

I'll pm u as well

Originally Posted by drummerkid1993

I've only glanced at their website and heard about them through another member.

i was told "we tend to avoid coast to coast"

but its good to here everything is up to scratch

Originally Posted by Katiexx

I didn't say It was ok. In an ideal world tortoises would ALL be in tortoise tables or outdoor enclosures...or even better..the wild, however in a pet shop environment where space is limited thats not always possible. No shops keep torts in tables due to security issues. Now i know a couple of shops who's tortoises are completely off display and you have to 'order' them in as such. As a rule i dont like the idea of shops selling tortoises..however at least coast to coast give the correct advice out regarding them, unlilke alot of other well known shops. No I won't name names as the forum could be liable.

so no i'm not 'off it pet'. i'm interested in snakes,lizards amphibs not just chelonia, and coast to coast knowledge has been top notch and spot on. So stop looking at things in such a pigeon holed manner,

Originally Posted by Katiexx

grow up.

When i've visited coast to coast on several occasions, not all their torts were fed on fruit and veg, there were weeds present with the meds, the care requirements of the indian stars were met. the caimen wasnt there last time i went admittedly so no i cant comment on that.

There are other things, in the making as such, which will hopefully happen soon.to improve knowledge and education which is handed out.

I never said coast to coasts care of tortoises was spectacular, however I have seen alot lot worse. The only reason you're slagging off coast to coast is because it's a well known shop, and no this wasn't the first time.

I took some pictures of some of the torts in the local rep shop today which i'll upload when i gain access to my own pc..now that would make coast to coast n more shops look like a five star palace for torts..thats how bad it was, i didnt get pics of all torts as the owner came in n wasnt impressed, but i took some.

Originally Posted by sulcata2big

i bet iv been ther more than you pet

Originally Posted by sulcata2big

by you saying that they are ok people will go and buy a tortoise and keep it in a viv and give it fruit and veg becoz thats what they tel you to do and new keepers listen to shops ok pet