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09-01-2008, 02:58 PM
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Accessories Advice and under weight tort
ok im geting started with my rebuild of tortoise table as i was totally riped off with what was suposed to be a complete set up t is partly my fauly as i never looked into it but as you can see from my posts i am trying to make life better for my tort, i baught the starter and uv light yesterday obvuousley its 2 big for my table but it was silly to pay like 15.00 to go back next week and buy a bigger one atleatshe is geting some uv on him now
the questions i have are 1) In the shop yesterday the bloke tried to fob me off with allsorts out of all the stuff i think i need the following A) some kind of clamp lamp£18.99 B) infaredbulb £10.00 c)thremostat? £43.99 as im wanting to do this as cheap as i can what are my options i need the stuff but as you lot know your stuff was hpong you can help me do t as cheap as possible, The clamp lamp could i use a bendy desk lamp witch i can position my self? and the infared bulb what wottage does this need to be? also the thermostat £43.99 is this the going rate price of will i get one cheaper im not tight im just straped for money right now as im not working,if it costs me it costs me aslong as he is healthy  the man said my forts slightley under weight because he could get his little finger in near his leg hole wots that about?????????? how do i fatten him up my son asked if he could have a big juicy icecream BLESS HIM.  ok thats the info i have been given by the shop now its your turn any advice is a bonus even if ne 1 hasent a clue but you have more than me so please fire away,  
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09-01-2008, 03:12 PM
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O.K well personally i do not use a thermostat at all.I have thermometers monitoring the heat at each end and under the basking light.I am happy with this as my tort table is in my living room and is always warm and the temps are always right. I have a uv/heat/light bulb all in 1 at one end of the table.as long as you have the correct uv and a heat sorce with light and thermometers and hygrometers(which are cheap) to monitor temps and humidity,in my opinion thats all you need.I dont ever use any infa red at all i don't see a need for it.
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09-01-2008, 04:38 PM
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Basically the shop man has no idea what he is talking about - well he does but he is seeing those money signs rather than reality! You do not need a thermostat, not only are they unecessary but are detrimental to the health of torts. A tortoise living in constant temps with regular switching on and off of lights is likely to be confused and will certainly be a high candidate for vet treatment in the future  So long as you have the heat at one end of the table (opposite end to any hides) a tortoise knows exactly how to regualte it's own temps and should be allowed to do so.A clamp lamp is not necessary so long as you have somewhere safe to hang the heat lamp, could be a bonus though if you do not have an overhead hanging position. An infra red bulb is a waste of money especially if red in colour. A supermarket 100 watt spot lamp will cost around £1.50 and do exactly the same job. Re the fitting the finger in by his leg advice, ask the silly man how he thinks the tort gets his head inside! It's there to give him room. This means that every one of my torts is underweight - not! The only way to check this is to measure him from one end of the shell to the other (straight line on the floor and not over the curve) and to weigh him, this will show if he is underweight or not. Do not buy any of these things he has suggested, they are not necessary. No additional heating is needed overnight either. Always think of what he would have in the wild and the answer is usually staring you in the face. Hope this helps
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09-01-2008, 05:16 PM
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OR can get bulbs that have UVB already in them. They are more expensive but last longer and are the better option. You do not need a thermostat for either of the above options. Jason =)
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