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its in north devon, what do i do bout not havin a cert im really worried. pleaswe help
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13-01-2008, 12:20 AM
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 thought i would post the pic of her for you 
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13-01-2008, 01:06 AM
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If you are certain it is a hermanns then you need to inform DEFRA Nothing will happen to you but the shop will get a visit and you will be issued with a cert by DEFRA. There will be an investgation but nothing for you to worry about. If you are unsure of the species of your tort you can post a pic here for ID or mail me a pic and I will let you know from there.
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13-01-2008, 01:09 AM
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If this is the tort in question then yes it is a hermanni boettgeri and DEFRA need to be informed. It will not be easy to get a valid cert later on but now while the shop is still in business it will be OK. Feel free to mail me for details.
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13-01-2008, 01:34 AM
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If done correctly with a fit tortoise hibernating shouldn't cause a problem The problems during hibernation some experience are not allowing the gut to empty fully...they then cool the torts and the food starts to rot in the tortoise causing poisoning. I Had one girl email me, saying she'd been advised by the shop to give the tort a large meal and then hibernate. Told her to wake the tortoise immediately and give it a bath and get it under come warmth. never got a reply to see what happened to that one though  . Suppose when u hear the term hibernation you think feeding up, especiallyh if you know no better.Another cause is dehydration. When in hibernation I check my two daily to check that their cloacal areas are clear and that no defecation has occurred.
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13-01-2008, 01:39 AM
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TBH, i didnt realise there was so much to hibernating tort's. After reading up and reading threads like this, its just as busy as normal (minus the food prep'!)
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13-01-2008, 01:55 AM
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You would not need to get a tort up after a defaecation katie so long as the stomach has been emptied  Urination is the dangerous thing due to dehydration, although when underground dehydration is unlikely to be a problem, just box hibernation.
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13-01-2008, 01:57 AM
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13-01-2008, 02:35 AM
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by defecation i was referring to urates as well, so once again sorry for confusion.
 ah well its explained in the sticky at the top of the page. Just explaining that problems in hibernation occur when people either overlook factors like urates being passed or don't fully empty the gut.
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I see this tortoise is being advertised for sale elsewhere to avoid having to hibernate it! Sorry but it needs to be said that this is an offence under CITES regulations. Would you forward the details of the pet shop that sold this tortoise please.
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