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Old 12-01-2008, 11:06 PM
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Hello to everyone. Anybody keep or know anyone who keeps Burmese Brown tortoises? Looking to get in touch with other keepers?
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:10 PM
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Do you know where I could buy a couple of juveniles?
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:45 PM
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Hello, thier quite hard to get especially captive bred ones. Hatched some this year for the first time, adults were uk bred and are 11 years old. Hopefully will have some more next year if your interested? Be warned though they grow large pretty quickly!
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:50 PM
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Hello, thier quite hard to get especially captive bred ones. Hatched some this year for the first time, adults were uk bred and are 11 years old. Hopefully will have some more next year if your interested? Be warned though they grow large pretty quickly!
If I had a field or two I would be next in the queue
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Back in the end of the 1990's, Cotswold Wildlife Park used to breed Manouria emys. They have massive clutches (50 -60 eggs) which hatch quite quickly (about 50 days), so after 2 year's breeding we were having trouble finding homes for them. We ended up virtually giving them away to ASRA members. I don't work there any more, but last time I visited they had at least 6 adults, so it might be worth contacting them.

These are my favourite torts; very hardy and characterful, and a much better alternative to sulcatas if you can provide for a big tortoise.
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Back in the end of the 1990's, Cotswold Wildlife Park used to breed Manouria emys. They have massive clutches (50 -60 eggs) which hatch quite quickly (about 50 days), so after 2 year's breeding we were having trouble finding homes for them. We ended up virtually giving them away to ASRA members. I don't work there any more, but last time I visited they had at least 6 adults, so it might be worth contacting them.

These are my favourite torts; very hardy and characterful, and a much better alternative to sulcatas if you can provide for a big tortoise.

CWP are also in Tortoise Trusts walk of shame Tortoise Trust Web - Husbandry Pages of Shame Who on earth would incubate eggs in such numbers they did not know what to do with them? There really is no need. The same organisation took a large snake to a TV awards ceremony where it was taken on stage and promptly dropped by the celebs trying to hold it - not much of an advert for animal care
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Old 14-01-2008, 04:08 PM
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I've seen the TT's pages about CWP and have to say I agree with them entirely. To be hypocritical for a minute, I don't like it when people slag off zoos and shops on these forums; I think if you have a problem then you should try to sort it out face to face. Having said that, during my last visit in about 2004 I was very disappointed at the high high densities at which they were keeping thier torts.

I haven't heard of vast quanitities of asian browns for sale, so maybe they have stopped incubating their eggs; alternatively, maybe the husbandry conditions are discouraging them from breeding....

BTW, we always tried to be careful with whom we re-homed surplus stock; usually people we knew who had experience etc. Didn't always work of course, and on one occasion some redfoots we had rehomed turned up in a garden centre for sale at 10x the rehoming fee we charged!
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Old 14-01-2008, 08:49 PM
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Hello Mat my adults came from cotts, my friend picked them up as hatchlings in 96. They have grown into the most beautiful friendly tortoises and i totally agree with you as they are a much better alternative to sulcatas.
I suppose they are about 40cm long now. They laid eggs for the first time last spring( making the most amazing nests out of all kinds of materials in my tortoise house). All three of the girls nested infact so we had over 100 eggs! Only chose to incubate 50 eggs and hatched 29. They are the most beautiful hatchlings, which have grown at an amazing rate and very smoothly. We've sold most of them now, but i did keep 4, couldn't resist.
Did you work with Glyn Evans when you were at the zoo?
Think the reptile keepers thier now are only into snakes and not chelonians anymore, its a great shame because i always loved seeing the tortoises thier..
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OOOOhhh very nice a uncommon torts its nice to read a thread about something a bit different for a change.
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Yeah I worked with Glyn. I left in 1999 and I gather he left a few years after. We were both pretty keen on torts and we had a pretty good collection in the end. never did crack the big one though - Aldabrans! We had mating activity but never any eggs.
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