Bath - Page 3

-EJ · #21 (**permalink**) 21-02-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hermannslover

can i also ask this? a question for helen and ed seems as you two doubt the theory (once again, you may me right or wrong and same with me - but lets just try another point of view)

Why bath torts in the first place when there is a water bowl in their housing for them to drink from? This is actually a serious question because i may be missing something here......

I don't soak any of my tortoises... no need for it. They have water bowls and they use them.

I soak new acquisitions until I know they are drinking by seeing them use the water bowl.

Cloacal drinking is what the action is called. If you do a search under what the action is called you will get all the references you need.

If you continue to asume they can take in fluids through the cloaca and you are wrong(which in this case you are) you are erring away from the side of caution.

Tina · #22 (**permalink**) 21-02-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by -EJ

Again... google: Cloacal drinking

The first reference should be a scientific paper. There are other references dispelling this myth.

Soaking will rehydrate a tortoise but only if the tortoise orally drinks.

I DID google a while ago, I don't just randomly throw in my opinion in any post... some reports are negative, some positive, some are non-conclusive.

So as I said before... I still believe it is scientifically unproven

hermannslover · #23 (**permalink**) 21-02-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by -EJ

I don't soak any of my tortoises... no need for it. They have water bowls and they use them.

I soak new acquisitions until I know they are drinking by seeing them use the water bowl.

Cloacal drinking is what the action is called. If you do a search under what the action is called you will get all the references you need.

If you continue to asume they can take in fluids through the cloaca and you are wrong(which in this case you are) you are erring away from the side of caution.

until is has been proven scientifically, as has been said.... then i disagree with you on this.

Rand0mvidz · #24 (**permalink**) 21-02-2008, 08:34 PM

Hello, his bath went well, the little guy is settling into his new table or run or whatever they are called, he seems to be enjoying himself climbing and he's been sniffing around the lettuce, mum is going downtown in

abit

to get a list of veg that I read in quite a few care sheets is acceptable food, the new

heat lamp

is working great and the little guy seems to be settling in, ill leave him a few days to settle in,

I'm basically SOOO Happy for getting this little guy, this also opens
SO much learning doors for me, I have
studied my snakes for 2 years and torts seem just as interested and
prehistoric

!

My mum and her boyfriend are top class

-EJ · #25 (**permalink**) 21-02-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tina

I DID google a while ago, I don't just randomly throw in my opinion in any post... some reports are negative, some positive, some are non-conclusive.

So as I said before... I still believe it is scientifically unproven

It's not scientifically proven either. So would you recommend a keeper count on this knowing that it might be wrong or caution the keeper not to count on this action because it is not proven.

oh... here...
Negative test for cloacal drinking in a semi-aquatic turtle (Trachemys scripta), with comments on the functions of cloacal bursaeCharles C. Peterson *, David GreenshieldsDepartment of Zoology, Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, Oklahoma 74078-3052

hermannslover · #26 (**permalink**) 21-02-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by -EJ

It's not scientifically proven either. So would you recommend a keeper count on this knowing that it might be wrong or caution the keeper not to count on this action because it is not proven.

oh... here...
Negative test for cloacal drinking in a semi-aquatic turtle (Trachemys scripta), with comments on the functions of cloacal bursaeCharles C. Peterson *, David GreenshieldsDepartment of Zoology, Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, Oklahoma 74078-3052

once again ed, even if we told people that 'cloacal drinking' was proven as works... who is telling people to take water bowls from their enclosures? does it make any difference? as long as a water bowl is their aswell then the tort can drink if cloacal drinking doesn't occur.

Tina · #27 (**permalink**) 21-02-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by -EJ

It's not scientifically proven either. So would you recommend a keeper count on this knowing that it might be wrong or caution the keeper not to count on this action because it is not proven.

oh... here...
Negative test for cloacal drinking in a semi-aquatic turtle (Trachemys scripta), with comments on the functions of cloacal bursaeCharles C. Peterson *, David GreenshieldsDepartment of Zoology, Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, Oklahoma 74078-3052

I've read that one already Ed

and many more.

I'm not recommending a keeper count on cloacal drinking and I don't remember posting that I recommend a keeper count on it. If a keeper is bathing their tortoise or providing a bath in their enclosure what difference does it make whether it drinks from it's mouth or cloaca or what is scientifically proven? I don't remember saying 'dunk your torts butt in the water for 20 minutes and that will hydrate it'

hermannslover · #28 (**permalink**) 21-02-2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tina

'dunk your torts butt in the water for 20 minutes and that will hydrate it'

Carley1985 · #29 (**permalink**) 21-02-2008, 08:49 PM

So if tortoises don't become rehydrated from bathing why do i hardly ever see my tort drink from his water bowl (i see him taking a little gulp about twice a week, sometimes..) and prefer to sit in it? Surely he wouldn't survive on this tiny amount of water?

I'm not trying to get at anyone so don't bite my head off, just wondering really.

littlefoot · #30 (**permalink**) 21-02-2008, 08:53 PM

Sorry all but I am sat here laffin at you all.We should stick to what we know as fact really.That is torts definately drink through their mouths so provide water at all times.

I wonder if they bath in the wild?
I also wonder if like some other reptiles they can absorb water or moisture through there skin,anyone know?
They might even be able to drink through their ears being as they might be able to drink through their As

who knows.

I really doubt this theory of cloacal drinking,why don't they walk backwards into water then so they can watch for predators when drinking?

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