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Old 21-02-2008, 08:53 PM
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Hello, his bath went well, the little guy is settling into his new table or run or whatever they are called, he seems to be enjoying himself climbing and he's been sniffing around the lettuce, mum is going downtown in
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to get a list of veg that I read in quite a few care sheets is acceptable food, the new
heat lamp


is working great and the little guy seems to be settling in, ill leave him a few days to settle in,
I'm basically SOOO Happy for getting this little guy, this also opens

SO much learning doors for me, I have
studied my snakes for 2 years and torts seem just as interested and
prehistoric
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My mum and her boyfriend are top class

I'm sorry your thread got hijacked by the cloacal drinking debate. I'm so happy your new little tort is settling in well Maybe you could post us some pics so we can admire him. Do you have a name for him yet?

If you have a search around your garden you may find some weeds that he can eat... there should be some dandelions and vetch growing there. If you're finding them difficult to find Floretti bags of lettuce are recommended by many keepers as a good supplement to weeds (a good mix, not washed in bleach, no additives and they last longer than most bagged salads).

This site has some good info on feeding and edible plants, also a good care guide.

Tortoises

Good luck with your tort... and I hope you had a really good 16th birthday
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Old 21-02-2008, 08:56 PM
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I've read that one already Ed and many more.

I'm not recommending a keeper count on cloacal drinking and I don't remember posting that I recommend a keeper count on it. If a keeper is bathing their tortoise or providing a bath in their enclosure what difference does it make whether it drinks from it's mouth or cloaca or what is scientifically proven? I don't remember saying 'dunk your torts butt in the water for 20 minutes and that will hydrate it'
Again... this is for the benefit of other readers... There were 2 bits of wrong information in this thread. The first that tortoises are capable of drinking from their butts... They can't. Second... this has never been proven... It has... (reference cited).

The point of this goes to credibility of the information being offered. If those two points were wrong... what else is being offered up in error as fact.

So... bottom line... do as much of your own research as you possibly can and don't rely on any single source of information... unless... it has a really good reference section.

Ok... I'm done.
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Old 21-02-2008, 08:59 PM
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I wonder if they bath in the wild?
The galapagos tortoises do it to cool down.

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Thankyou that is excellent Jason.Is that in the wild?
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Sorry all but I am sat here laffin at you all.We should stick to what we know as fact really.That is torts definately drink through their mouths so provide water at all times.

I wonder if they bath in the wild?
I also wonder if like some other reptiles they can absorb water or moisture through there skin,anyone know?
They might even be able to drink through their ears being as they might be able to drink through their As who knows.

I really doubt this theory of cloacal drinking,why don't they walk backwards into water then so they can watch for predators when drinking?
so you're basically saying that because they don't bath in the wild thats thats enough proof that cloacal drinking doesn't occur?!

like ive said, i have never said it is proven, only passing on whats been told to me... yet it hasn't been unproven.
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The galapagos tortoises do it to cool down.
they do then...
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So if tortoises don't become rehydrated from bathing why do i hardly ever see my tort drink from his water bowl (i see him taking a little gulp about twice a week, sometimes..) and prefer to sit in it? Surely he wouldn't survive on this tiny amount of water?

I'm not trying to get at anyone so don't bite my head off, just wondering really.
Their skin is nonporous... that's one of the criteria of being a reptile... just like the shell... totally non porous.

unless you watch your tortoise 24/7 you really don't know if and when it is drinking. I've got tortoises which become active at night which is when I've seen them drink.

The tortoises do get hydrated when they soak... they usually orally drink at that time.

This is also a good reason to monitor the weight of a new tortoise so you have an idea if it is taking in fluids and food.

I just read one reference that stated a tortoise can drink up to 40% of it's weight in one sitting. This can last them a good long time.
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Hang on a minute I never said they didn't bath in the wild I was asking.Also I can have my own opinion on the matter if I want to and I disbelieve it until I see proof.
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Again... this is for the benefit of other readers... There were 2 bits of wrong information in this thread. The first that tortoises are capable of drinking from their butts... They can't. Second... this has never been proven... It has... (reference cited).

The point of this goes to credibility of the information being offered. If those two points were wrong... what else is being offered up in error as fact.

So... bottom line... do as much of your own research as you possibly can and don't rely on any single source of information... unless... it has a really good reference section.

Ok... I'm done.
What you refer to was research from 2001, I have found other references re cloacal drinking which were non-conclusive. As you've said... it's best not to rely on any single source of information... after all who knows who is offering up errors as fact... far better to check things out yourself from many sources.

I'm done too.

Sorry Randomvidz, no more hijacking
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Thankyou that is excellent Jason.Is that in the wild?
'Fraid not, but as you can see he went in there by choise and I have seen photos of them in similar pools in the wild.

All I know is they do it to cool, don't know anything about ass drinking
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