hi
i got some cb mangroves from shorpsire exotics about 4 weeks ago and they are stunning snakes they are my first biogas and one feed straight away the other took a couple of weeks more that is asisst feeding which is easy as they are quick to open there mouth they are both babies and they got them from a show in europe just phone them 01952822133 it was well worth the 8 hour drive to get them for me hope this helps cheers keith

bites can prove fatal to an allergic reaction, but so can bee stings . anyway i'm sure it'll turn out alright! just give her the attention she needs never slack with an ill animal it will probibaly die. best of luck anyway mate!

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0.1 cinnamon (Rhacodactylus ciliatus tiger morph) R.I.P
1.1 seth and medusa (boiga cyanea)
1.0 cat in the hat (uroplatus guentheri)
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa
1.1 jungle carpet pythons (need help with names!)
0.0 1 Mossy Frog
WANTED! 0.1 Uroplatus Guentheri, Nice phase ATB's, Day Gecko species, Tokay morphs, Different Boigas
Yea I have a Jem7V

Ameyzoo - AmeyZoo Exotic Pets 01442 834446, ask for Mark, who owns the shop. As for CB being "just as shit to keep as WC", I would have to disagree. CB animals will not have the inevitable high parasite burden, or the stress of being caught, kept in appalling conditions, then shipped over to the UK!!!
Mangroves are by no means an easy snake to keep, but for the simple reason that they do not like to be disturbed. If they are being kept correctly, and left alone, there should be no problem with them. I cannot speak about keeping WC, as mine are CB, but they have been no more troublesome than corns.
And as far as the bite goes, there are no documented cases of a human fatality, allergy or not. There has been a lot of comment lately about allergies, but lets keep things in perspective - people can have fatal allergies to peanuts but they are few and far between. This species was taken off of the DWA for good reason is they are not as dangerous as first thought.
treat them with respect and you will have no problems.
I wish you all the best in finding some CB hatchlings, as this is a stunning snake!

Hi Mason,
Could do with a female adult next time you get some.

Moz

im with you ian14 took the words right out of my mouth

you're kind of right but i think he may of just been advising from his own experiences that they can be just as hard to feed etc...as you have stated you have not kept WC before so how would you know for sure?

also if anyone has an allergy to any kind of venom then i think you'll find that without quick treatment the chances are they will die... also peanut allergies are the most common and there have been plenty of fatalities.

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0.1 cinnamon (Rhacodactylus ciliatus tiger morph) R.I.P
1.1 seth and medusa (boiga cyanea)
1.0 cat in the hat (uroplatus guentheri)
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa
1.1 jungle carpet pythons (need help with names!)
0.0 1 Mossy Frog
WANTED! 0.1 Uroplatus Guentheri, Nice phase ATB's, Day Gecko species, Tokay morphs, Different Boigas
Yea I have a Jem7V

Parasites are no problem if you treat your animal for them.... which i did, a thing many WC novices do not. and as i said they were STILL just as much of a headache. and this was a personal observation, not to be taken as gospel. i hate people stating opinion as fact. this was opinion.

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But your post came across as a fact that CB animals WILL be as difficult as WC! My opinion is that CB animals will be easier to settle in, as they won't have a high parasite burden or be stressed from capture/importation. Yes, I fully agree that the parasite side is not a major issue as it can be cleared, but with a species that seems to dislike too much interference, surely a CB animal is more likely to settle in and feed? In my opinion, a CB animal that is an established feeder will be far easier to maintain than a WC one. Opinion, not fact, before anyone else has a go.
I am not against WC animals, they do have their place, especially with ones which are rarely seen in captivity, or new to the hobby, but surely where CB are available these would be easier (not easy, just easier) to maintain as there will not be the ineveitable internal parasite burden to treat and clear, and trying to start feeding?

your all right in your own little ways!!!
i keep 4 of these stunning snakes and have one cb male and three wc 1.2 and they can all be as bad as each other from my experience with them my cb goes through good and bad feeding patches he eats like a pig then wont eat for a couple of weeks! were the wc seem to feed often but in smaller amounts! they both settled as well as each other and temprement seems to fine with all i free handle as much as possible though my cb seems a little naughty on a night time the wc are fine!! as for the bite i cant say not had one but have seen pictures and looks very painful but there is no recorded deaths!! and i personaly dont think there will be unless its something like a very bad reaction that causes anaphylactic shock which is often the cause of death through many snake bites!!

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