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Old 06-05-2008, 03:03 PM
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Old 06-05-2008, 03:14 PM
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As far as i am aware a Fire is a visible 'het' for Blue eyed leucy
When bred together you will get Fires, normals and BEL's
I've never heard of an F2 fire, effectively the BEL is the Super
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yeah sounds like a sales pitch to me, until it's proven otherwise. there's also other things i'm not getting, so i'd just be wary folks.
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Old 06-05-2008, 03:26 PM
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Wasnt Eric Davis aka Rick Page the first for Black Eyed Leucies too?
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Hi Rachel,

Yes Eric Davies was the 1st to produce Black Eyed Lucys and he is the guy we bought all our royals from and yes he REALLY knows his stuff!!

We also had a black eyed lucy which we traded for £20k worth of breeding royals

If you breed a fire to a fire you get fires, if you keep a pair of the babies back and breed them together you get F2 fires - Which are also known as super fires.

If in doubt research it on the net - But this isnt a sales pitch.

As for pictures of any send me an email to gfishburn2001@yahoo.com and I will reply with pictures.

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Old 06-05-2008, 05:09 PM
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Well I guess the guy who is "Vexed" by the fire prices, doesnt really know his stuff.

An F2 fire (2nd generation) is a snake produced by breeding two fires together. It was two F2 fires that produced the first ever Black Eyed Lucy by Mike Davis who we got the snakes from.

An F2 fire is clearly different to a normal fire, being diluted in colour and is of more expensive to buy and purchase than a regular fire.

If you can get an F2 fire from anywhere else then I suggest you buy it!

Greg
Im sure I don't know my stuff but Constrictors Unlimited do and this is a small snippet from their section on Fires:

When Fires are bred together you will get Fires and Leucistics. There is a real advantage with this Leucistic project because there are no "possible hets". It is a co-dominant trait, the "super fire" is a bright white ball python with no pattern and black eyes.
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Could you please forward me weights and if possible a pic of one of the reduced, faded and granite marker pied please?

A second generation visual Fire is simply a Fire. The concentration or hue of colour is simply line bred.
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A Fire from a Fire x Normal etc breeding is no different than a Fire x Fire breeding.

Fire is 'het' for BEL, there is no double Fire gene snake that is not a BEL.

Yes I have researched it and own some personally, there is no difference.

E-mailed you for pics of the Granite.
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Old 06-05-2008, 07:11 PM
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i already have emailed and pmed this guy but dosent respond.
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Hmmm....
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