unrelated pair exact sub species unknown £150 the pair based near Basildon Essex pick up or delivery within reason for fuel costs

Male




Female

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Abbotts corn hatchlings for sale http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/snake...kes-essex.html

i love these
had a male there myself for a while
can you get them to ireland?

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are they Lampropeltis pyromelana knoblochi?

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im not convinced that hey are what i bought them as so im selling them as arizona mountain kings as not to mislead anyone and sorry Ireland bit too far

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Abbotts corn hatchlings for sale http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/snake...kes-essex.html

the reason I ask is because they look like tarahumara mountain kingsnakes from mexico to me, but I believe they are also found in southern north america so could have different common names but be the same snake.

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will be at robaston if its any use

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Abbotts corn hatchlings for sale http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/snake...kes-essex.html

a friend of mine has been after these for ages... i should be seeing hin this week, as soon as he hears they're on here he'll break your door down to get them!! lol!!

hold tight cos he also lives in the same are as you!

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Chris x

1.0.0 Burmese Python (Gabriel)... living at in his holiday home at the moment

These are almost certainly NOT knoblochi. They have far too few triads and the bands are too far apart. True knoblochi are easy to distinguish especially when viewed from the side - the lower parts of the white bands usually join in some way or other, often as a chain link effect, as they meet the ventral scales. I would guess that - as is quite common nowadays - these animals are of mixed ancestry between the varieties (or subspecies depending which authority you go with) woodini and pyromelana.

When I get a bit more time I'll post some pics of some of my true knoblochi to illustrate my point. But for now take a look at the individuals Jerry Cole has for sale (BJ Herps):

Tarahumara Mountain Kingsnake Male

Cheers,

Rob

BUMP please note i have not named a species i am selling as mountain kings as originally stated at no point have i said they are knoblochi, if you wish to discuss breeds ect there is classified chat for this very purpose
Thanx

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Abbotts corn hatchlings for sale http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/snake...kes-essex.html

Only trying to help clarify what they are - as you stated you were not sure and someone else seemed to think (incorrectly) that they were knoblochi. You said yourself you don't think they are what you bought them as. It's probably best to avoid the same thing happening to someone else.