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Old 30-12-2007, 04:12 PM
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the ducts were removed completly!
they only grow back (around the nott) when the ducts are tied!!

she is a certified venomoid!!!!!

he has just lost the paperwork (most likly 4 weeks ago when he moved house)

the only place that removes the glands is in the ussr!
they have tried in the usa but they leave some behind inturn this can grow back over a long period of time (proven)

never heard of a complete duct removal growing back!! have you got any write ups on this you could post

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oh! she has now been sold anyway
Wrong...check out Venemoid Inc. A US firm, they remove glands and ducts and replace with silicone.
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Old 30-12-2007, 04:18 PM
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if this has no venom how come its till classed dwa?
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Old 30-12-2007, 04:19 PM
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if this has no venom how come its till classed dwa?
I was thinking the same thing??
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Old 30-12-2007, 04:20 PM
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if this has no venom how come its till classed dwa?
As it still has the ability to breed and produce venomous offspring I should imagine.
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Old 30-12-2007, 04:21 PM
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if this has no venom how come its till classed dwa?
Tampering with the venom glands or ducts of DWA animals is illegal in the UK (illegal to perform in the UK, although not illegal to own an animal that was worked on in a different country), and as far as I'm aware, any modifications are ignored when it comes to DWA. It's a touchy subject and heavy debate at the best of times as to the permanency of changes, and certainly not enough to risk the health and safety of the general public for.
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Old 30-12-2007, 04:27 PM
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il have to look into it and ask, but theres a few comments on venomdoc, one in particular saying a snake is not allowed to be certified venomoid unless the procedure is 100% irreversible, which means that the glands would have to be removed.
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The snake CAN grow back ducts when removed. This species in particular has had papers written on it. I will find and cite them later.

This snake is to be concidered venomous since it still has the glands.

I am still interested. IF you have them could you please PM me some pictures (or post or email)

Although this snake is to be concidered as HOT and DaNGEROUS since it may be able to inflict a venomous bite, through one or both fangs, and HOT snakes with no tampering can givedry milkings, this is not a reliable test.

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As for the DWA it covers species, not individuals. If a tiger has its teeth and claws removed it is still licensed, as is the snake. And as was rightly said it can still breed and produce dangerous offspring.

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he said its sold now Dan, id be interested to have a read of those papers if you can find them though.
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BUGGER!

i missed that. Oh well i'll get a fully functional then for me.

I Was only interested as a display animal (for talks/shows etc)

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