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Old 19-01-2008, 03:10 PM
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As has been said, unless you have paperwork stating it is a Cook's then it won't be. Many pet shops and even suppliers put the 'Cook's' label on any generic ATB as either a deliberate deception (as they are worth a lot more) or an outdated throw back (a lot of work recently has renamed many species in the complex.

True Cooks (Corallus cookii) are ONLY found on St. Vincent and a few surrounding islands. ATB's (Corallus hortulanus) are closely related but are found all over the mainland of Northern South America. Exports from St. Vincent are strictly controlled and therefore TRUE Cooks are very difficult to come by in the trade.

I'm sorry to come across as bolshy, but it is one of many bits of false information perpetuated in the hobby by suppliers and shops that sell things without doing any proper research at all. This then causes people like yourself (and through no fault of your own) to sell them on as you bought them only to have some 'know-it-all' forum posting stranger to tell you you are wrong!


Anyway, it is a stunning snake and should be snapped up at £120 as a really nice ATB.

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Old 19-01-2008, 03:17 PM
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As has been said, unless you have paperwork stating it is a Cook's then it won't be. Many pet shops and even suppliers put the 'Cook's' label on any generic ATB as either a deliberate deception (as they are worth a lot more) or an outdated throw back (a lot of work recently has renamed many species in the complex.

True Cooks (Corallus cookii) are ONLY found on St. Vincent and a few surrounding islands. ATB's (Corallus hortulanus) are closely related but are found all over the mainland of Northern South America. Exports from St. Vincent are strictly controlled and therefore TRUE Cooks are very difficult to come by in the trade.

I'm sorry to come across as bolshy, but it is one of many bits of false information perpetuated in the hobby by suppliers and shops that sell things without doing any proper research at all. This then causes people like yourself (and through no fault of your own) to sell them on as you bought them only to have some 'know-it-all' forum posting stranger to tell you you are wrong!


Anyway, it is a stunning snake and should be snapped up at £120 as a really nice ATB.

Cheers

Andy
HAving researched it also, the above is very VERY true. lovely snake though.
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Old 19-01-2008, 03:20 PM
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any chance of getting better pics of the sunbeams? i may be interested in a pair...are they LTC ? and are they eating well on rodents?
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Old 19-01-2008, 03:21 PM
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I've got some shots of some C. grenadensis that I caught in Grenada when on my PhD research trip. I caught them with none other than Mr. Henderson himself! I'll post them later if your interested!

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I've got some shots of some C. grenadensis that I caught in Grenada when on my PhD research trip. I caught them with none other that Mr. Henderson himself! I'll post them later if your interested!

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Interested?!?!?! INTERESTED?!?!?!? all i can say is 'im glad im at home and not in an internet cafe'.
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Old 19-01-2008, 03:28 PM
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Interested?!?!?! INTERESTED?!?!?!? all i can say is 'im glad im at home and not in an internet cafe'.
To avoid hijack issues - i'll post um in pictures!

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What papers do you need to prove it's a Cooks? I've got no reason to believe it isn't..
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What papers do you need to prove it's a Cooks? I've got no reason to believe it isn't..
you mean apart from all the reasons I stated in my post!?

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Old 20-01-2008, 10:36 PM
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What papers do I need?
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CITES a10 papers. Confirming with photographic evidance, and microchip if the animal is over 7 months of age.

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