yeah in her pm she sent to me it said i want £65 because its not an amel its a creamsicle.

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0.1water dragons, 2 bearded dragons, 0.1 blue tongue skink, 1.1 royal
1.0 candy cane, 0.1 lavender, 1.0 r.o, 0.1 normal, 1.1 normal motley , 1.0 pink snow, 0.1 anery, 0.1 sunglow, 1.0 blizzard, 0.1 butter, 0.1 hypo, 0.1 ghost, 1.0 hypo bloodred, 0.1 bloodred, 1.0 jungle corn, 1.1 ghost motleys, 1.0 motley het butter

10 corns hatched and 4 wds

Creamsicles are a cross between Great Plains and amel corns. However, Great Plains are a subspecies, P. guttata emoryi, so you would not get a proportion of North American Rats from her, as these are P. obsoleta.

'North American Rat Snake' is a generalisation for a mongrel of unknown american rat snake ancestry.

P. obsoleta is a classification that contains several subspecies, grey rat, texas rat, black ret, etc etc

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Great Plains ratsnakes are Pantherophis emoryi or Elaphe emoryi - they are no longer considered a subspecies of Corn.

And the sense in which I use "North American Ratsnake" is exactly that - the animal is a North American snake whose ancestry cannot be defined more clearly than "all parent species were Pantherophis genus". I would call a hybridised Obsoleta-complex animal an "Obsoleta Rat" if I had to give it a name, but then I'd probably be calling that the generic North American Ratsnake name too.

However in a case of doubt - like "it looks like a creamsicle" - I would rather label it as the HYBRID animal than label it as a pure species. It's better that you get a mislabeled-as-hybrid questionable animal than a mislabeled-as-pure questionable animal.

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Lizards: 2.2 E. macularius, 1.2 H. caudicinctus, 1.0 R. ciliatus, 0.2.1 A. fragilis, 1.1 T. merianae, 1.0 V. niloticus ittibittius
Colubrids: 3.5.15 P. guttattus, 1.0 P. guttatus X E. climacophora, 1.1 P. o. rossalini, 1.0 P. o. lindheimeri, 0.1 E. anomala, 0.1 C. radiatus
1.2 Lamprophis spp, 1.0 L. g. nigritus, 0.1 L. g. californiae, 1.0 H. n. nasicus
Boids: 1.1 E. c. maurus, 0.1 E. conicus, 4.1.6 P. regius, 1.1 A. maculosa
We HAD a three-bedroom house... Current lodgers: 1.0 E. c. maurus, 1.1 E. c. loveridgei

i did tell her i brought it as an amel but i wasnt convinced so she knew. not like i didnt say anything and just told her it was an amel. well ive offered to buy it back she said no so not alot i can do about it now.

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0.1water dragons, 2 bearded dragons, 0.1 blue tongue skink, 1.1 royal
1.0 candy cane, 0.1 lavender, 1.0 r.o, 0.1 normal, 1.1 normal motley , 1.0 pink snow, 0.1 anery, 0.1 sunglow, 1.0 blizzard, 0.1 butter, 0.1 hypo, 0.1 ghost, 1.0 hypo bloodred, 0.1 bloodred, 1.0 jungle corn, 1.1 ghost motleys, 1.0 motley het butter

10 corns hatched and 4 wds