Cheetara didnt feed, again! i was so sure she was goin to aswel! im gutted! i thought she was goin to at first but she just sniffed round it and then was more interested with tryin to sneak out of the tub! it looks like im at the next stage with her now! should i leave her in her tub for 5 or so days now? then try her again! if she doesnt feed after that then im gna have to start pulling my hair out! i know its prob a long way off but im not sure i would be comfortable with assist feeding! i sound like a stressy freak! apologies to everyone for my probably irrational stressyness ! and a big thanks to ez4pro for a very reasurin PM! ill be takin u up on that offer soon i think! dont know what im gna do next!

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How did you try and feed this time, small tub, mouse, left overnight?

Personally I'd leave her in a tub for 5 days and then strike feed her which is how she was being fed before.

But there really is nothing to be worrying about at this stage. It's been less than 2 weeks since her last feed hasn't it? So don't panic, if you're stressed/nervous the snake really can sense that.

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i dont know how big she is, but have you treid feeding her in her viv where she feels comfortable, get a few feeds down her and then feed her in a tub?has worked for mine...

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i offered it to her on tongs and she just sniffed it so i left it in her tub overnight and she didnt eat it!

What do you mean by strike feed her? is that not what iv been doin?

the last time she fed was the last time you fed her which will be three weeks on sunday!

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the reason iv tried her in the tub was because she refused it in her viv! but now its got me thinkin that maybe she refused it coz she was in shed (didnt know that at the time!) and that if id tried her again in her viv then she mite of taken it!?!? oh.... im so confused!!!

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You do need to try and worry less (not easy I know!). She is not going to starve. Be patient, it is very early days

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ahhh, i suck at that, trust me, or ask my girlfriend, she'l tell you, im incapable of it!

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Well she lived in a 5L tub here in a rack, and would strike the mouse instantly when it was moved in front of her face, constrict, and consume.
If your temperatures are alright, the only thing I can think of is that she is getting stressed by the viv, which makes me think you should perhaps go back to a tub, or a smaller viv. The hissing also suggested that the viv space was noticeable to her as she was just claiming her space a bit.
BUT, on the other hand - as she was shedding, she wouldn't have eaten anyway... so it's hard to say.

Are the mice white, medium to large, are they relatively warm when she's being offered them? If they're cold you could try warming them with a hairdryer as I defrost my mice in hot water so they are always hot when offered.

But don't worry, she could go 3 months without losing any body weight.
There is something she doesn't like that's stopping her eating, either it's the space, or the temperatures, or perhaps the mice themselves... it's just a matter of figuring out which is stressing her... or eventually she'll get hungry enough for it not to bother her anymore!

You have 2 options,
1) Move her into a smaller container, where she should live for 5-7 days. Try to strike feed her then by placing the warm mouse in front of her nose and wiggling/vibrating it just a little bit.

2) Leave her in the viv unbothered for 5-7 days, after double checking your temps again (the hot side in my rack is set to 86 and it drops naturally lower on the cool side), then try to strike feed her in the viv without picking her up or moving her.

Personally I like to keep boas in quite small spaces until well established so I'd go for number 1, but number 2 might well work.

It seems that picking her up and putting her in the tub may be stressing her if she's hissing and hasn't eaten this week... so I think she needs to be fed in her environment, whether that is a tub or a viv is up to you?
But take deep breaths, her health is in no danger from not eating at this stage and for quite a while to come, and if you are stressed/nervous, they really do pick up on it sometimes.

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the mice are white and are large, there above room temp so are quite warm but next time ill try and get them warmer! the temp is 30 in the hot end and drops to about 25-26 on the other end! shes in 9l tub atm, which is put inside the viv so i can moniter the temps! I think il go with option 1 but then again i do want her to be comfortable in her viv! like you said, she needs feeding in her enviroment and from the hissing im thnkin she was defensive over the viv coz she sees it as her space and she didnt hiss last nite when i opened the tub, she came towards me coz she was tryin to sneak out, surely thats not the behaviour os a snake thats comfortable?!! when she was in the viv she wasnt hiding away, she was bold as brass, climbin all over! im really not sure what to do!

put her back in her viv and leave her a week and try again?

or

leave her in the 9l tub for 5 or so days and try again and if that still doesnt work then put her back in her viv!?

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completely forget you own a vivarium for this snake until it is feeding, and by feeding I mean 6+ CONSECUTIVE eeds for you. It may not look as pretty but it won't do her any harm being tubbed.

From today leave her alone for AT LEAST 7 days, 14 would probably be better, then offer a dry warm/hot mouse.

it's the pissing about thats done this and it probably won't go away until she's not feeling so pissed about with

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