dude, thats like the hole point of the thread...she's struggling to keep humidity up for the little boa.

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Dude.......I know!

Hence my comment regarding temps etc.

If you want the simple answer..........dont keep reptiles in glass vivs.

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Viv sprayed at least 2x daily. Substrate in warm end is moss, cool end is repti-bark (which is meant to hold humidity). Waterbowl has large surface area etc etc..... Still overall levels are crap though

She did use the moss box, she's been in it constantly but it didn't really seem to make any difference The only difference I've noticed between this shed and the last one (which was patchy, nothing like this though, but she cleared it herself) was that she soaked a lot but not this time. Perhaps I should "force bathe" her!

Mason is of the opinion that the humidity levels are because of the viv being glass etc, but personally I cannot see WHY it's not holding the humidity when it holds the temps without any problems......?

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All you can do it put a water bowl each end of the viv, sprey the viv, and add a moist hide, if she is still having sheds in parts, maybe thats just the way she is now then, or there might be some kind of health problem?

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It is a confusing one, though its on a statted ceramic which will keep temps good even if the ventilation is too high. What ventilation does it have? (Sorry if already stated previously)

One of my BRBs had patchey sheds a couple of times but I believe it to be down to poor humidity caused by a cover coming off some venting without me realising. She is in a new viv and sheds perfectly now.

When you spray, how wet do you make it (if thats measurable) and how moist do you keep the moist hide? What humidity ranges are you achieving?

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It has one vent in the lid, which is the depth of the viv (12") and 6" wide, at the cool end. This is the only vent.

I use a pressure-plant sprayer thing and I spray until things are wet wet (ie the silk plants are dripping). The humidity will rise to around 80% but then doesn't take long to drop right back to about 40%. With the addition of the waterfall it has gone up slightly and is now around 60%. I think the lowest it has been has been about 30%....

The moss hide is emptied every day and the moss soaked and the squeezed out so it's not dripping. The only time I didn't do this was when she was in blue and I didn't want to disturb her.

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Very wierd! Im suprised it drops so low.

How and where are you measuring it?

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Computer says no

...you are entering The Twilight Zone LOL....

I have a lucky reptile digital thermometer/hygrometer thingy. This measures humidity and temperature at the unit itself, I also have an exo-terra stick on hygrometer at the hotter end of the viv, since the lucky reptile thing only meaures where the unit sits.

If you look at the pic in this thread, where Mason asked to see the viv, you can see the unit, just moved further to the left now. If I raise it then I get really weird temperature readings which usually insist the cool end is way hotter than the hot end!!

I have noticed something on my BRB though, which I think may be the problem.... I am going to take her to the vet to be looked at. In the 3 or 4 places where she DIDN'T shed, where her belly scales meet her body, there are indentations, almost like really bad scarring, which is why I think the skin did not come off. When I went to see Julia she thought they might be old burn scars....

I am 99% sure that these are very recent because I have not noticed them before, even though she was thin. I don't know WHAT they are though; she has not burnt herself that I'm aware of, her bulb is guarded and her mat is on a stat set to 85F (I changed it from 88F last night). There is no other heat source in the viv; she has not cut herself; there are no particularly sharp objects in the viv. I have not noticed any injuries. If I can get the camera to work I will try and post a pic of the areas.

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Aww, sorry you're having so much bother at keeping your humidity up. I agree with Crownan on the temps, as thats what mine are at and I use wooden vivariums (chipboard coated in melamine) for my BRB's. Where the substrate sits, (the base of the viv and about 4 inches up the sides) I have sanded the surface slightly to texturise it and sealed it with G4 pond sealant (2 coats), so no issues with wood damage and swelling and saved me having to fork out £300 for a plastic herptek or similar. You can pick up a decent wooden viv for £50 and G4 for £10. Bargain! This allows me to use very moist substrate such as eco earth, which expands in water. I never have to spray my viv. Once a week, when the monsters are eating in tubs, I tip in a jug of water, (especially under the ceramic) mix the substrate with it and you're done for another week. Perfect humidity, no moss hide required and perfect sheds everytime. I know we've chatted about eco earth before and you're not keen, but orchid bark moistened by occasional spraying will work too. Just make sure you have adequate ventilation, so vents up a height at the warm end and nearer the base on the cool side, this allows for a humidity cycle, where the warm, moist air leaves at the top, drawing cool air into the viv, which is warmed and moistened and so on.

I'm not certain on this, but I think the reason a glass viv doesn't hold humidity well is due to the fact that it doesn't hold heat well, glass allows heat out and allows heat in very easily. If the heat is escaping quickly in a glass viv, then there will be insufficient heat in the viv available to warm the moist substrate to a high enough temperature to allow water evaporation, which is what gives you a humid environment. The heat escapes so fast, that despite having moist substrate, very little moisture ever evaporates into the air, so you never retain any humidity. Wooden vivariums hold heat extremely well, so the air is always warm enough to enable water to evaporate giving a warm, humid environment. The glass vivarium will also be costing more money to run as it will mean the heating element will have to work harder to provide the temperature you have set on the thermostat. Hope this helps! Regarding your poor lil guy's scales, without a photo, I'm at a loss. Can't think off the top of my head what it could be.

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