Reptile Delivery Scotland - Page 2

Rob Wallace · #11 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by reptilesrock

I'm for that, a Scotland and North England Delivery Service would be great, certainly not to slate Rep Taxi as as far as i am aware they run a fantastic service, but i have had a couple of quotes for a journey that would take me an hour there an hour back at prices that i just couldn't justify.
Maybe something more Northern based that would help reduce the cost to the company thus helping pass on the savings to the customers would be a good idea.

Yeah i totally agree mate, also would link the scots and northerners up with the rest of the world.... Too many times have i missed out on an absolute brilliant deal because it was too far away. I also could be wrong but it seems the areas least covered are the north of england and Scotland.

Rob Wallace · #12 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerys

with the price of petrol these days, 200 does not suprise me at all i have to say... couriers tend to work on around 40p and up per mile..

which would make london to aberdeen, around £215

if you are going to start couriering yourself, you will soon learn that in order to make it just brake even, you DO need to charge realistic money..

for instance that trip above, takes at least 10 hours driving, and thats with no breaks factored in.. even charging 215 would barely give you a few pence earnt for your time put in.

it does not matter if the animal is worth 20,000 or 2.00.. the distance involved is the same, as is what you use to do it.. time, fuel and so on

petrol has now rocketed to over £1.10.. the average car on 35-40 mpg, goes nowhere for a tenner these days...

even if you do only north to scotland (which will not last, as people always want you to do more) you will be hard pushed to merely cover your petrol, insurance, tax, tyre wear, oil use, and other general car wear.. unless you charge a realistic price..

i;m not trying to steal business... i dread being asked to do scottish trips as few people really understand the cost implication.. i could not logically do say Carlisle to aberdeen as an affordable standalone trip, as i would have to factor in lincs to carlisle to aberdeen to lincs..

aberdeen to york for instance is still a 6 1/2 hour trip, and some 350 miles, and that is just one way.. and is still going to come in at around £140 or so, unless you want to find yourself out of pocket at the end of it.

all i can say, and i would not mind betting the RT crew (and petwheels for that matter) will say the same. is its a lot harder than just "driving about the country chatting to your mates and dropping off a few animals on the way"

although knackering, it can be a good laugh tho.. Gremlins now has a van to use full time, all i need to do now is talk nicely to a mate who's other half does decals, and get some funky designs on it to cover the rust patches up lol.. viv transport anyone?

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incidently, RT.. ARE based in the north... unless someone has moved manchester london side of brum whilst i was not looking!

Yeah mate i totally understand what your saying, but i can definately say that i feel incredibly lonely up here... and anything we want we either have to drive bloomin miles to get or we have to fork out mega bucks.

I am kinda feeling a bit of animosity here... i have absolute respect for RT and have actually used them before. the only thing is that it would be incredibly nice to have a link to the rest of the country... much the same as reptile taxi does down south. Even if it was Scotland/northern based ... but did do trips down south for say 200 bucks, that would atleast mean that the folk up this end would get delivery for cheaper prices. I am sounding selfish but i am sure most will agree with what i am trying to get at.

edit: didnt notice the manchester bit. Theres no chance manchester to edinburgh is 230 bucks... sorry.

Nerys · #13 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 12:59 AM

no, at a guess the 230 would have covered where you wanted the snake to be picked up from.. and taken to.. not manchester to edinburgh..

however.. i don't mind doing link runs.. i have done similar with nigel.. i charge X amount to get from the collection address to nigels, and nigel charges X amount to go from his to the drop.

but. i do charge what i feel is a realistic price. which means, at the moment, i charge around 45-50p per mile, normally one way. this does vary on the trip. for instance, cardiff to newport might not be very far.. but if you have to drive from linconlshire to cardiff, then to newport and back to lincs.. its not going to come out cheaply! far better in that case, as i normally do, and as do RT, book in several on the same day

trouble with that is, more than 3 stops, and by the time you hit the 4th you are normally 2 hours late already.. and by god some people moan like hell when you are, even if they have not prep'd the snakes for transport despite having the extra time to do so!

anyway... back to stickers...

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reptilesrock · #14 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Wallace

edit: didnt notice the manchester bit. Theres no chance manchester to edinburgh is 230 bucks... sorry.

Thats where my issue came in, Manc. to Teeside, via Leeds, or basically, Leeds to Teesside, it's 55/60 miles tops. My quote was rather extreme.
I could have hired a brand new Vectra, on business prices (not Joe-Bloggs street price) for £25 and the Diesel would have cost me £10 (have done the trip a few times in a 2.0 TDI Vectra @ £10/trip).
I understand that the Manc. bit ups the quote, but on an agreed day whereby many deliveries are in operation, that cost would be shared.
Something Northern or Southern Scotland based would dramatically cut costs, and it is quite a large area of the country so it's not like it would only service a corner of the UK.
If a company in say Newcastle for example, or even further North, was in operation, the Southern dwellers would soon see what we as the Northern lot are faced with.

reptilesrock · #15 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerys

with the price of petrol these days, 200 does not suprise me at all i have to say... couriers tend to work on around 40p and up per mile..

which would make london to aberdeen, around £215

Hi Nerys, first off, sorry, i don't really want a debate, been having them all day long and am tired, lol. Doing finals of my Law degree so have debates day in day out and it gets tiring, so please don't take this as a spark for one to start, and having said that, i just saw something and wanted to point something out.

The actual cost of running a vehicle is not really that high.
At the price you have quoted, a vehicle is making on average a 100% mark up on relative cost to charge.
It differs for petrol and for diesel, yet they are overall somewhat similar.

Diesel Running Costs:

https://aadrivingschool.co.uk/allabo...esel_table.jsp

Petrol Running Costs:

https://aadrivingschool.co.uk/allabo...trol_table.jsp

...and these costings are at todays costs, and do include fuel usage, and every possible expenditure that the journey of the vehicle incurs.

Therefore your statement of finding it difficult to maintain a profit on the prices charged today, even at 40pence per mile, or there abouts, is wrong i'm afraid.

butterfly · #16 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 01:14 AM

i keep seing folk writing about 'the north'. then i see they class the north as manchester etc. well there is a big place past there called scotland. thats the north. good idea having a scottish based rep transport.

Nerys · #17 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 01:18 AM

lol, oh trust me, the "southerners" get as much charges as the north does...

surrey to northwales, set someoneback £250 the other week..

colchester to .. errr... newport i think it was, was about £130 or so i think, only as i combined with someone else tho..

(tho never again.. i do black list people

not the colchester/newport ones mind..)

Me to St Austell.. should have come in at about £200.. although due to a mix up.. (it was supposed to be exeter meet up) the buyer there was inly charged £100 and got a right touch...

as far as i am concerned i don't really care where you are, norf or sauf.. its purely based on how many miles i have to do, and how much petrol it takes..

ireland is one excpetion.. a) its a bitch of a trip, and b) the "booker" MUST cover the ferry... or meet me on the UK side... which normally puts it in the 350 and counting bracket.

as said, i may be covering NI in the future.. waiting to hear.. !!

being brutal tho... you would NOT even cover your basic costs, if you charged scotland to the south at £200 all in.. it would cost you more in petrol just to start with..

if you are going to try and do a combined cheapie.. about the only way to do it, and not loose money, would be to have them ALL met you at one point, and go from there.. if you have to pick up door to door, trust me, you will lose money hand over fist..

honestly, i am not knocking what you are saying, but there is a lot more to it in terms of milage, time, energy and so on, than i think you guys (forum generally that is) realises..

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reptilesrock · #18 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by butterfly

i keep seing folk writing about 'the north'. then i see they class the north as manchester etc. well there is a big place past there called scotland. thats the north. good idea having a scottish based rep transport.

It is a respective statement. Someone from Kent may class Lincoln as 'the North'. You wouldn't respective of your location.
I don't class Manc. as North, as said in my post, that this (so far imaginary

) service would service more than what people realise as there is a massive area North of the Manc. latitude.

reptilesrock · #19 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 01:22 AM

At the end of the day, something is only ever going to be worth what people are willing to pay for it, be that a good or a service.
If it is overpriced then the business decays, underpriced, ditto, it decays.

butterfly · #20 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 01:26 AM

if i fill my diesel vectra right up it costs £70. that gets me from here to clevely, and back to kincardine and back to clevely with deisel left over. dont ask me the mileage, i never press that wee button thing, but i will next weekend.

i can see the charges rising if your coming from way down south. and tbh iv had snakes delivered from clevely 3 times for nothing. plus a visit to assist feed 1 snake. and all they asked for was some bacon and haggis rolls. but thats different as taxiing is a business in itself. i go and pick up myself. that way i get to meet the snake im buying before i hand any money over.

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