Reptile Delivery Scotland - Page 9

xXFooFooLaFluffXx · #81 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by reptilesrock

Yea and if you had rescinded the offer i'd have been the one that sues you for it. I doubt you touch on contracts do you? This is a fully operating business run legitimately is it? Or is it as you have stated a hobby? Or a favour? Or a service? Which is it, please clarify. People are speaking on behalf of others and it is getting very cloudy when the actual people/services spoken of arise to defend themselves from an alternate angle and with differing stories.

i am not speaking on behalf of others. Though this is dittas business i am just as big a part of it now. as rory said, buyers find the introduction of contracts a little daunting. The thought of introducing them has crossed our minds believe me, but if the business can run happily this way, for both the buyer and for us then at present contracts are not something we are going to introduce yet. If a contract had been in place then yes, im sure you could have sued me, but since there wasn't, then you couldnt. Im not sayin we honoured it for people to say " awww look how good they are bla bla" im saying it as that is what we do. We honoured this quote and have honoured others before, and will continue to honour them if an error occurs again.

i am not a law student, nor will i know as much about law than you do, being a law student, but please dont imply that i am not educated

Nerys · #82 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 04:03 PM

just got in, so catching up..lol..

blimey.. who rocked your cage lol..

i've got no idea, and no interest to be honest, who you are, what you do, what age you are and so on.. to me you are just another forum user, i think of them all the same unless i know otherwise.. i know more intelligent 12 year olds with no education at all.. than some 30 year olds with degrees.. anyway..

i'm not BS ing, as you like to call it.. *sigh* i have no need to, i do what i do, and will continue to do so, regardless of your opinion to be quite honest. i know what it costs me, i don't need to know what you think it does or does not cost me, it does not concern me if you think that is too much, too little, or whether it comes with bows and ribbons on, to be honest, and i am pretty sure the other couriers will think the same.

no, i don't run gremlins as a credible business. i run gremlins as an extension to my hobby, and as a convenient add on to Rorys services. as said, i enjoy driving, i enjoying seeing the country, and i enjoy meeting people an animals.. do i make money from it? no.. thats why i do it as i do. as a one man band with a small zoo and a full time job, if i wanted to earn money part time, i would go back to waitressing as a second occupation, where i used to earn around £70 tips on a friday night in a good restaurant for about 6 hours hard work, + £6 an hour on top.. that too as a job i freely admit i enjoy, having worked a second occupation part time in catering for 14 years, its a great laugh as a part timer.

anyway, onto the next post..

i'm sorry, who ever you are, but i just really am not bothered by what you do or do not think of what i charge and so on.. as said, for your journey i would have quoted you £65-70. which, lets face it, is not actually that far off your figure of £62 that you came to somewhere along the way. so what your problem is with that, i am not really sure. but then nor do i really care.

N

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Originally Posted by reptilesrock

There is no real need for people to begin slating others calculations and suggesting that they are cheaper etc, all i did was put VERY SIMPLE FRICKIN MATH to use and it came up with 'X', at the end of the day, if it shows that some people are charging BS prices for a simple delivery task, then so be it.
I cannot understand how a 60 mile journey would cost £15 in fuel, are you using a frickin M16 Fighter Jet?

''I know what my car costs me'' blah blah blah BS!

I know also a couple of things, don't assume that because i am a uni student that i am some young inexperienced idiot that hasn't driven a motor vehicle before, i also, whilst doing a full time degree, afford my time to being a Director of a £multi-million / annum turnover business, experience is something i am not short of.
If our company staff reported back at a £15 60 mile journey, i'm afraid it would be bye bye time.

You run 'Gremlin Rides' as a credible business do you not?
You entered into this discussion, obviously very foolishly, and you received feedback and criticism from people that also drive vehicles, (yes thats right you are not the only one ya know!) and you have turned defensive as a result of questions and simple figures put to you.

Either back out gracefully and so ''sorry but my costings are of a private matter'' or admit that your costings, as i have already told you, as a major contributor to the UK motor research has told you (AA), are simply wrong at best, or made up.

I am not happy with the sarcasm you display in answering questions put to you, genuine honest no quibble questions. I have held off till now, but you display the exact same manner throughout this thread and it simply is not on.

Nerys · #83 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by west-coast-reptiles

We have applied for the necessary permit to allow us to be able to cover Scotland with a RT style business, hoping it will be through soon as it was sent some time ago!!

We are aware it is time consuming etc etc and are prepared for that!

nice one guys, and if there are times we can be of use to each other, then let me know

all the best

N

Nerys · #84 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Athravan

I haven't read the whole thread, sorry guys!

I just want to say, from personal experience, that people do underestimate the costs in driving. Even just meeting someone an hour away from me will cost me £15 in petrol alone to get there and back... and that's hunting around the city for a competitive garage.. lord help anyone who has to stop on the motorway for petrol!

I recently advertised travel around 5 hours away from me. I have had people asking me to pick things up, drop things off, fill my car, do this.. do that... and then offer me £10.. £20 for doing it... basically no where near covering my costs of running the car, let alone the time... some people have been really generous with delivery costs but one or two considered me "expensive" to quote £30 for what is basically 10 hours of travel for me, because "tnt is £5 cheaper so we might as well go with that" !! The person who wrote that to me already knows what I think of that reason

And our car is taking a beating, I add about 5k miles every year onto our car for reptile related travel, on top of what we would usually use it for. The more miles, the more services, you need more tires, brakes, oil, everything... the less value the car has even when you sell it on, the more chance of engine failure and other failure and breakdown. You age your car the more you drive it and cars are not cheap things to repair.

All in all I find I have people complain even when I am just covering petrol for delivering my own animals, saving people the extra cost of reptile taxi and the time of collecting it themselves, and I'm still called expensive, when I'm taking no money for the car use, no money for my time... just the basic petrol cost... so I dread to think what people think of the taxis who HAVE to cover their repair costs, and who HAVE to take wages - they're not doing you a favour you know, they're running a business!

All in all I don't think I've ever had a quote from a courier that I could beat myself factoring in all the costs... so I'd certainly never complain about their prices.

TSKA Rory Matier · #85 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 04:08 PM

Still on the contracts line of thought.

I feel that the way things are shaping up, it may not be long before contracts are in fact a serious part of this transport industry [exotics].

Whilst as a law student, l could easily understand your need for reflection upon their introduction in this thread.

But as l have said, we have tried for a number of years to introduce them into the brokerage side and with no success. Indeed it is hard enough to persuade people to sign their experience to a screening form, let alone have them sign an agreement which is binding, should even they default upon it.

The transporting of exotics is a difficult business to begin with and believe it or not, there are more pull outs from clients/customers/buyers [readers' interpretation] that most would think. Certainly more cancellations come from that side than they do from the couriers themselves/ourselves.

So if a contract was in place, how long before [as high protocol as it would be] buyers were complaining that they were being requested to pay for a cancellation on their side, by the couriers who were then 'out of pocket' which may in turn affect other buyers, because a block run was affected?

R

Nerys · #86 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 04:09 PM

thank god for some people who do know how it is lol lol

god that trip you state as an example, sounds like my average journey

still.. faroppnorf.. if you and a few gang up and book some from gaz.. i can hook up with our new scottish crew when their stuff arrives, and i am sure we can sort something out

N

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Originally Posted by gaz

its all very well wittering on about how you can do 60 miles on £10 or whatever,however in the real world people want snakes taken on 600-700mile round trips with deadlines to meet,road works to negotiate,other people to find on the way,crappy directions, etc etc,usually entails hour after hour at 80-90mph,your fuel economy is out of the window before you even start,personally on your figures i wouldnt even consider leaving the house,would just be throwing my money down the drain
regards gaz

Nerys · #87 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 04:10 PM

i wish i bloody well did have one..

are they the ones that go straight up and down as well as forwards very fast??

i think straight up and down would be good.. some of the blocks of flats i go to.. i think would panic if they saw a plane flying at them!

N

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaz

i refuse to deal with 30 whole people at once!!sinful,the gaz would have to do proper work then

regards gaz
ps:i didnt notice your F15 last time we met,did you hide it??

sparkle · #88 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 04:12 PM

most courriers dont make money... im sure reptile taxi and gremlins will also agree.. IF they do its very little really

they make a TINY amount.. they can be on the road way more than timkes quoted due to traffic jams and busy rush hour traffic.. an edinburgh to london job that AA route planner tells you is 8 hours can turn into 12 13 14 etc etc.. a punctured tyre.. a motorway accident etc etc...and whatever they make on top for hourly rate usually goes to car repairs etc..

after paying for insurances petrol and general wera and tear of vehicle there just isnt much left... thats why rep courriers you wil find have other jobs or a partner that has another wage from a full time permanent job also..

arguing this way with two prominent wel known courriers is not a good look at all.. gremlins and reptile taxi are both well established and know what they are doing... yes mistakes get made.. noones perfect... and im sure anyone in business would try to rectify this immediately especially as the people running the courrier services are also animal lovers and reptile keepers

if you are thinking of using this forum for business id suggest you have done yourself out a fair whack..

not everyone who reads threads posts on them.. but id say theres plenty of people who may have tried another courrier in the hope they were well mannered and efficient who may now think... hes arguementative and difficult..

just a wee thought and insight into the psychology of new businesses

Attending Uni does not make a person intelligent.. I learnt bugger all at Uni i didnt already know... all it did was give me a paice of paper saying I knew it

Nerys · #89 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 04:24 PM

thank you sparkle..

i'm not. for once. trying to be argumentative no, i am just simpley stating how it is, as i find it, as someone who is doing nearly 1000 miles a week in her spare time at the moment

i don't need to BS, enough people know me, to know that whilst my opinion might not always be appreciated, i don't tend to bull shit.. blunt, harsh, opinionated yes.. bull shiter? to be honest, i have no need to be.. i don't need to pretend to be something i am not. i know myself, i know who i am, and what i am capable of, am i am confident enough that some find it arrogant. do not mistake confidence for arrogance. i have no need to state a pack of lies to make myself look better in others eyes. i am happy with myself in my own eyes.

anyway, i digress..

contracts.

i was just thinking about this on the way back from the latest run out.

i am thinking of introducing an invoice. as other couriers do, such as TNT and so on. this will state the price charged, the animal delivered, and the date.. and will have a box for the person to sign to say they have received, just as you would do with TNT.

it would be easy enough to have a duplicate book in the vehicle, and either hand write one, or use pre printed out ones to be filled in, or if you are organised enough, printed ones with the details on lol.

it would not be a contract as such, but i feel it could potentially cover couriers and buyers alike in some situations.

what do you think? interested in all views, both couriers and bookers alike?

N

Nerys · #90 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 04:28 PM

although... if i wanted to be a little wicked...

if i could just mention that we couriers do have a black list..

some people might not like us, but that does work both ways..

N

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